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29 August 2013, 01:37 AM
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"WW1 GERMAN 36 VICTORY ACES DOCUMENT" on eBay
An unusual (I think!) and interesting item for sale on eBay! Anyone here have the necessary deep pockets, and interest, to acquire this?
Other WW1 military items also available from this seller.
WW1 GERMAN 36 VICTORY ACES DOCUMENT | eBay
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29 August 2013, 09:55 AM
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Seems like a very high price for something with no provenance and no information on how it was obtained from his family who I would expect would have had little interest in letting it go. Also, it seems to be dated 3 months after his being shot down which may be okay, but it seems like a long time for his commanding officer who was his good friend to get around to having this prepared and sent to his family. It may be fine, but there are too many questions for me.
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29 August 2013, 09:27 PM
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I agree with Jim, "Beware".
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30 August 2013, 04:53 AM
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If, in fact, it is genuine, it belongs in an archive. I wonder how it came into private hands?
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30 August 2013, 07:04 PM
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Dealer is a very reputable guy. Apply to him personally for provenance. Rare item!
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5 September 2013, 03:07 PM
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Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanophile-1
If, in fact, it is genuine, it belongs in an archive. I wonder how it came into private hands?
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The fifth and last pics show an added text in French ("36 victoires" and below "Pour le mérite"). So it probably went through French hands.
But you are right: this paper, if original, belongs to archives.
Regards,
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5 September 2013, 09:36 PM
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Aerowalla was right this guy has a pretty good record with alot of satisfied customers , it may be real, wonder how it got there ?
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6 September 2013, 02:14 PM
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It could be real but without some really serious provenance and not just a seller's reputation, it would be a total throw of the dice with uncertain future commercial value since the new buyer would be even further from whatever the source may have originally been.
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6 September 2013, 02:53 PM
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Provenance very important
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
It could be real but without some really serious provenance and not just a seller's reputation, it would be a total throw of the dice with uncertain future commercial value since the new buyer would be even further from whatever the source may have originally been.
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Excellent point, Jim. Just as with a piece if artwork, there should be verifiable "paperwork" documents, decribing how the historic document, normally found in the fliers's service records (now usually in an archive), came into "public" hands.
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6 September 2013, 08:46 PM
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Your probably right about that Jim.
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