Breguet's Aircraft Challenge 1091

[Jim]

Here is Challenge number 1091. Hopefully it is easy enough for the not-yet-aces to score with a correct answer before the 5 or higher points aces who must endure 12 hour waiting time before they are allowed to pounce on it from out of the sun. Laissez aller, mes amis! (begin the attack, my friends)

Jim


Scoreboard at the end of Challenge No 1090: Siemens-Schuckert Riesenflugzeug VIII bomber


Scoreboard at the end of Challenge No 1089: L.F.G. Roland D. V

170.90 Dave_Kent ☼☼☼
153.40 Varese2002 ☼☼☼
145.65 Rbailey☼☼☼
67.60 richard B ☼☼
43.00 Aquilius ☼
38.55 Lodzermensch ☼
33.30 Cruze ☼
31.90 Tork1945 ☼
30.58 Rod Filan ☼
26.80 YavorD ☼
22.55 Froggy
16.90 Flamingo
13.00 Breguet
10.50 matte_kudasai
10.45 GregE
10.30 Patrick
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.20 Rufe
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 Berman
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.50 Doc
07.25 Ermeio
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.30 HoHun
06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
06.00 Old Man
06.00 Sobrien
05.90 Brad
05.80 RobW
05.70 AROTH
05.70 dpolglaze
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.40 John McKenzie
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.20 Maze
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 AL FORBES
05.00 Kristjanr
05.00 SCMc
05.00 Tom L ......................... At and above this line, have to wait 12 hours
04.40 Ross Moorhouse ........... At and below this line, may start immediately
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
04.00 Jim
04.00 Luf-Rick
03.00 Catfish
03.00 Linhawk
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 Cigogne
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 albatros1234
02.00 austin08
02.00 Lupodimontenero
02.00 Misa2
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Mike Westrop
01.00 missouri mule
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Douglas7
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Johnnick
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

Previous: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

The Rules:

1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !) and the poster re-post within the same thread, the 12hours handicap beginning from that point.
6. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
7. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
8. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
9. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
10. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
11. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules is BREGUET

[Dave_Kent]

Based on the markings, streamlined nose and complex undercarriage, I believe that this twin-engined biplane is the Caudron R. 11.

Dave

[Rbailey]

Twin engine biplane with obvious Caudron R-style tail and fuselage but no nose wheel – Caudron R. 11.

[Jim]

Both Dave and Rbailey are correct, but Dave was seconds quicker with the first response so he gets the point and the privilege of creating Challenge No. 1092.

This is a French Caudron R.11 which first flew in March, 1917 and entered service in February, 1918. By the end of the war 370 of them were built and were flying in 6 different Escadrilles including R.46. They were powered by two 215 horsepower eight-cylinder water-cooled Hisso engines. They had a crew of 3 with a pilot and two gunners - one in the bow and one facing aft, were armed with five 7.7mm Lewis machine guns (two forward, two aft, and one forward aiming down and rearwards. They could carry a small bomb load of 265 pounds. Initially built for reconnaissance or light bombing they were soon found to be best suited as fighter escorts for bombers. They had a wingspan of almost 59 feet with a design ceiling of 19,500 feet, speed of 114 miles per hour and endurance of 3 hours.


Scoreboard at the end of Challenge No 1091: Caudron R.11

171.90 Dave_Kent ☼☼☼
153.40 Varese2002 ☼☼☼
145.65 Rbailey☼☼☼
67.60 richard B ☼☼
43.00 Aquilius ☼
38.55 Lodzermensch ☼
33.30 Cruze ☼
31.90 Tork1945 ☼
30.58 Rod Filan ☼
26.80 YavorD ☼
22.55 Froggy
16.90 Flamingo
13.00 Breguet
10.50 matte_kudasai
10.45 GregE
10.30 Patrick
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.20 Rufe
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 Berman
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.50 Doc
07.25 Ermeio
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.30 HoHun
06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
06.00 Old Man
06.00 Sobrien
05.90 Brad
05.80 RobW
05.70 AROTH
05.70 dpolglaze
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.40 John McKenzie
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.20 Maze
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 AL FORBES
05.00 Kristjanr
05.00 SCMc
05.00 Tom L ......................... At and above this line, have to wait 12 hours
04.40 Ross Moorhouse ........... At and below this line, may start immediately
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
04.00 Jim
04.00 Luf-Rick
03.00 Catfish
03.00 Linhawk
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 Cigogne
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 albatros1234
02.00 austin08
02.00 Lupodimontenero
02.00 Misa2
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Mike Westrop
01.00 missouri mule
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Douglas7
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Johnnick
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

Previous: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

The Rules:

1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !) and the poster re-post within the same thread, the 12hours handicap beginning from that point.
6. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
7. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
8. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
9. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
10. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
11. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules is BREGUET

[Froggy]

Bonjour

jim, just to complete your interesting presentation of the Caudron R11, I want to say that the caudron of this challenge belonged to the 96 th aero squadron used to protect their Breguet 14 B2

Cordialement
Bruno

[John McKenzie]

Also note that this R11 machines have One less bay in the wings cellule ( each side) , than the earlier R4 machines , and No nose wheel .
This R11 being designed by Gaston Caudron .

The R4 was recently the subject of Crashfile # 710 very recently & a good photo is shown there .

[Colin A Owers]

I thought that the US R.11 biplanes were not operational.

Can anyone confirm if they flew missions?

Colin A Owers

[Jim]

Hi Collin. Are you saying that the French gave or sold some of their Caudron R.11 aircraft to the US? This was a very operational aircraft for the French.