Researches about a german pilot

[gemesis]

Hello everyone,

I'm doing some researches about german aerodromes which were just near by the St Mihiel salient.
I've recently bought this photo concerning two pilots (or one pilot and his observer ?) and think that it could be the flieger abteilung 298 (bayrisch).
I'd like to understand with you the name wrotten in the dedication.
Which name can you read ? If you succeed, do you know this german pilot ? I would be interested by the informations we could find about him, (which abteilung, where he has fought, informations about his fights etc...)

flieger.jpg

dedication.jpg

Thanks for all answers,
Best regards,
Samuel.

[Jos]

Hello Samuel,

I think that the name is Hans Colin.



Jos

[Varese2002]

The problem with this name is that it is more a signature then a proper handwriting in the old German school (Sütterlin) or the newer style of German writing.

At least the first name is Hans but the family name is very difficult, my best estimation is that it is Lohn, so Hans Lohn.

The date is given coded as 2/6.17, what is June 2, 1917.

I think the man in the leather jacket is the pilot and the other one (Hans Lohn ?) is the observer (he is probably the officer). Some more information can be got from the plane in the background, which is one of the numerous C-type biplanes (radiator built in the upper wing).

Perhaps others on the Forum can have a look at the name ?

Kees

[gemesis]

Hello,

Thanks to both for having watched my post. I agree to say that the pilot is the man with the leather jacket and the other one his observer.
No problem with the first name which is Hans but for the family name, I had personaly identified "Lolm" or "Loben".
So, somebody could maybe find any information about a nomed Hans Lolm, Loben or Lohn ?
And for the date, it could be June 21. 1917 too.

Thanks again,
Samuel.

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by gemesis

And for the date, it could be June 21. 1917 too.

I think not, it is a slash ("/") used for seperating the '2' and the '6'. Mostly these dates were (hand)written like 2/6/17 or 2/6/1917 (more precise but rarely done on informal documents like these). As it the European (German) sequence it is June 2, 1917.

No a big deal though, because it is only the date when Hans xxxx signed the picture

Kees

[Alien]

Originally Posted by gemesis

And for the date, it could be June 21. 1917 too.

My first guess was that the date is 4 June 17. Since there is a period between the 6 and the 17 I'd be surprised if there was a slash between the first digit and the 6. "2/6.17" doesn't look correct to me. However, 4.6.17 translated to American as 4 June 1917 looks right

[Catfish]

Hello,
sorry for being this late, but i did not see this before

I was not sure, but after presenting this to my wife, and an uncle, i am sure that the name is Hans Cohn, which is a "germanised" name of Cohen, most probably from jewish origin. The date is the 2.6.1917, in german writing of the time 2/6 17 (B.t.w. this is june, 2nd 1917 in english writing, in german the day is always written before the month).

Is there any other information on this photo ? Thanks for posting and greetings,
Catfish

[gemesis]

Hello Catfish,

Thank you very much for those informations. A german point of view is very useful, so it must be this name and I agree with it.
Unfortunately, I have no others informations about this photo. I just think personaly that those men could belong to the Flieger Abteilung 298 on which I'm searching as much informations as possible.

Thanks for having asked your family for it,
Best regards,
Samuel.

[Catfish]

Hello Samuel,

glad i could help, i was a bit late, and then i did not see that Varese2002 had already sorted out the date - sorry Kees.
My wife's quite good with this Sütterlin, as is the rest of my family - however this gene must have escaped me somehow lol

Good luck with your research, and greetings,
"Catfish"/Kai

[Ransom E. Olds]

It appears to me the name might also be seen as Colm. I find there is such a German surname. Ransom