Motto On Belgian camels turtle deck

VPete · 29 June 2025, 05:16 AM

I know the Motto " Nemo Impune lacessit" was carried on Hanriots and Camels but does anyone have a photo showing the whole motto on a persevered aircraft.

I have been asking around to see if anyone has a part used Pheon Decals sheet number 32064: Sopwith Camel in Belgian Service with the decals for aircraft Sk ?? (Sc)7 Lt.Jean Olieslagers, 9me Escadrille still on it that they are prepared to part with to no avail.

I am thinking about having some masks or decals made, this will allow me to finish the Wingnut Wings Camel left me on the death of a long time friend who also wanted it finished in Belgian markings.

Thanks for looking and any help given.

Phil1965 · 30 June 2025, 03:42 AM

Hi vpete, I haven’t made a model aircraft since I was 12 , but no one else seems interested in replying. That picture is from Ray Sturtivant’s “Camel Files” it looks like that motto is written just behind the cockpit don’t you think?
Also even though that decal sheet seems no longer available , there’s pictures of it on the net you could use for making one ?
Finally there’s a Belgium Camel in the Brussels museum , maybe they can take a photo for you ?
Best of luck anyways!

berman · 30 June 2025, 05:39 AM

gothaforce.com has taken over Pheon Decals. Perhaps they will offer Belgian Camels in the near future, You could contact them.

John McKenzie · 30 June 2025, 11:03 AM

The Camel in the Royal Army 's Brussels museum was restored with all new fabric some 35 or so years ago ....

B 5747 was built by Clayton & Shuttleworth , of Lincoln . ( or so I understand) ,...and it is in the small photo that you show the actually Cla...& Sh..th . Company marking .

B 5747 originally had no recorded history with it , when received in 1922, but carried on its original wartime fabric ,...the White Thistle marking of 9e Escadrille ................( whether this was original or not is not confirmed ) .

When latterly restored (above) , the new fabric now carried the " Cocotte " insignia of 11e Escadrille .................so not original .

There was recently a book published , by a forum member I think ? ( unfortunately I don't recall his Forum Handle ...? ..Rosen...? ), ... on Belgium aircraft in WWI ....entitled ;-

" The Belgium Air Service in the First World War "
and / or
" Above Flanders Fields .. A complete history of the Belgium Air Service "

aeronaut books ,.... written by Walter Pieters ..loads of photos etc.

I don't have either myself ,..so cannot comment .

The full motto originated in Scottish heraldry :-

Nemo me impune lacessit

JM

Phil1965 · 30 June 2025, 01:41 PM

Ah yes well thought of. Call sign “Roser” . His name is Bernard Deneckere I believe. Email link on his members page. He might be able to help.

VPete · 2 July 2025, 03:12 AM

To everyone who has replied I am sorry about the time taken to say thank you I will certainly try and contact "Rosen" to see if he can help. Regarding the books mentioned I have these but unfortunately the photos do not show the whole motto on his Camel, there are some better shots of part of the Motto applied to HD1 aircraft.

I hope to visit the Belgian Army museum later this month or early August so will see if the photo I want can be arranged.

Thanks again for responding and help.

smeekmeister · 21 July 2025, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by berman

gothaforce.com has taken over Pheon Decals. Perhaps they will offer Belgian Camels in the near future, You could contact them.

Gothaforce has not taken over anything from Pheon Decals. After Rowan passed away, on a visit to Sabine I asked her what she wanted to do, stating that it would be nice if Rowan's legacy could be continued in some form or another. She very much liked the idea. I asked her also what she wanted to continue to do and what not, so we arranged that Sabine still does all the printing and compiling and Gothaforce does the selling on website. In this way she doesn't have the hassle to set-up and keep a website alive. The good thing about it is that she found her wind back.
For the moment we sell available sets, but somewhere in the future there might be others as Rowan had a lot of WIP. However current priority lies on releasing our kits. What is planned though is a set of Fokker OAW serial numbers and crosses.
Hope this clarifies
Christian