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Old 15 October 2023, 06:25 AM   #1
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Question Kip Aero Gnome Monosoupape, or Verner Scarlett 7U?

Any experienced light weight builders on here? I have no idea where else to ask this question.

I'm planning on building a certain WW1 replica light weight plane, but I'm having trouble deciding what engine I should use. I'd like to get the plane a Kip Aero Gnome Monosoupape because I'm a huge fan of WW1 rotary engines, but I'd also like to get the plane a Verner Scarlett 7U because it seems more reliable, and convenient.

But... I really like WW1 rotaries, and I managed to find a company that makes reproductions of them! But, since I can't find any reviews on the Kip Aero Gnome Monosoupape, I don't know how I can trust it. I really wanna get it, but I just can't bring myself to get it, without knowing if I'll have fun with it, or just problems.

I need some advice .
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Old 15 October 2023, 08:25 AM   #2
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You will have much more fun and power with the Gnome . And a good support from the company who make them .
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Old 15 October 2023, 10:17 AM   #3
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These motors are made by CAMS in New Zealand , .... " nominally 100 HP but producing around 120 hp ...... It is 9 cylinder .

They are also able to make this Mono as a 7 cylinder version , "nominally 80 HP " ,..but it actually produces nearer to 100 HP , so I am told .

Both are of course , Rotary motors .

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Old 15 October 2023, 11:21 AM   #4
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You will have much more fun and power with the Gnome . And a good support from the company who make them .
I feel like I will. I just wish it had reviews so I could know what other buyers thought.

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Old 15 October 2023, 11:26 AM   #5
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These motors are made by CAMS in New Zealand , .... " nominally 100 HP but producing around 120 hp ...... It is 9 cylinder .

They are also able to make this Mono as a 7 cylinder version , "nominally 80 HP " ,..but it actually produces nearer to 100 HP , so I am told .

Both are of course , Rotary motors .

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I think I might get the Gnome. I'm not sure.
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Old 15 October 2023, 01:13 PM   #6
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Radial-Rotary ???

One thing to think about is: How are you going to fly this aeroplane???

Meaning: If you use a rotary engine, you will not be going out to fly by yourself. You will need a "team".

With a radial all you need is a battery and a start button.

Something to include in your " great scheme of things"

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Old 15 October 2023, 01:18 PM   #7
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CAMS' gnomes are said now to have electric self start options ..... and a lot more "real " power .


" You pay your money & you make your choice "

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Gimmeee mo money

Good to know. That has to be a first! But...this does make a point to consider for the uninitiated. (i.e. rotary starts, cross country w/ rotary).

I bet the next new idea will be sliced bread !!!!! LOL
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Old 15 October 2023, 02:29 PM   #9
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One thing to think about is: How are you going to fly this aeroplane???

Meaning: If you use a rotary engine, you will not be going out to fly by yourself. You will need a "team".

With a radial all you need is a battery and a start button.

Something to include in your " great scheme of things"

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The one I'm thinking of buying has an electric starter. It's a bit modernized.
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If you know how to do it you can start a rotary alone . And , very important , take advice only from people who have real experience with this engines !
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