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1 May 2023, 07:30 AM
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Scout Pilot
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Airfoil Radiator
Teves und Braun Airfoil Radiator . I am looking for all kind of information . This radiator was in the Albatros and other aircrafts .
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1 May 2023, 08:27 AM
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Forum Ace
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Hi Udo,
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Originally Posted by Udo Richard von Joerges
Teves und Braun Airfoil Radiator . I am looking for all kind of information . This radiator was in the Albatros and other aircrafts .
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I vaguely remembered Teven und Braun being discussed in the context of this thread ... probably looking a bit up and down from the linked post might give you an idea whether it's interesting to you or not:
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/sh...ves#post706798
Regards,
Henning (HoHun)
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1 May 2023, 02:05 PM
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Scout Pilot
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Can not find it .
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1 May 2023, 02:55 PM
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Forum Ace
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Hi Udo,
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Originally Posted by Udo Richard von Joerges
Can not find it .
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Here's some information:
https://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/s...&postcount=703
Have you also seen John McKenzie's post above the one I'm linking, alluding to photographs he shared with another forum member?
Regards,
Henning (HoHun)
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1 May 2023, 05:41 PM
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Scout Pilot
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Had the Albatros the Fokker type radiator ? I think Albatros used the T&B type radiator . But has the T&B type radiator round tubes or flat presst tubes ?
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3 May 2023, 02:01 AM
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Observer
Join Date: Feb 2023
Location: Southern Germany
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Hi Udo,
I found a "Baubeschreibung" from 1917 of a D.Va. Here a Teves & Braun radiator is used. As far as I know Mercedes Radiators were used also.
Here a interesting conversation between John and Redbaron 1917 about the Teves & Braun radiator of the Pfalz D.IIIa:
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/sh...=63418&page=65
Maybe Koloman Mayrhofer from Craftlab could help because of his Albatros and Oeffag replicas!
The second picture shows the upper wing of the Roland from below with the T&B radiator and the shutter.
Last edited by Cellnot; 3 May 2023 at 02:10 AM.
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4 May 2023, 04:46 AM
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Scout Pilot
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Hello ,
I like the Roland radiator photo . Has this photo a number written at the front or back like , Flz.Bild-A. ............ ? Can you send me the photo to my email address ? The Roland radiator is different compared to the Albatross radiator . And all this Austrian build Albatrosses are different compared to the German Albatros . The Mercedes radiators must be very rare , I never had one in my hands . Have a look at your PM .
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12 May 2023, 02:19 AM
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Observer
Join Date: Feb 2023
Location: Southern Germany
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Hi Udo,
on p. 61 of the book "Kühlung und Kühler für Flugmotoren, Dr.-Ing. Pülz" there is a note on a Daimler-Kühler (see picture p. 110):
"Auffallend geringe Gewichte hatte unter diesen Kühlern, die in der
Form stark voneinander abweichen, einer von Daimler: leer 27,0; voll 37,5 kg oder leer 103,8; voll 145 g/PS. Allerdings hätte der Kühler zum Nutzen seiner Wirkung etwas größer sein dürfen."
On page 107 ff. the Seppler radiator built by Teves & Braun is described a little bit better.
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13 May 2023, 09:36 AM
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Scout Pilot
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Thank you Cellnot . From the Daimler Radiator I have the original drawing . Also from the Roland D6 . And I just got enough information about the Albatros Teves & Braun .
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16 May 2023, 05:39 AM
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Observer
Join Date: Feb 2023
Location: Southern Germany
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Udo,
even though I'm slowly but surely using up my data budget, here's a nice picture of the T&B cooler of a crash landed Roland D.VI. At least the rough dimensions should be able to be derived from this.
@John: In the Pfalz D.III replica threat you mentioned a T&B radiator with an empty weight of 17 kg. In the book of Dipl.-Ing. Pülz from 1919 I only found an empty weight of 27kg.
Are the differences between the individual T&b coolers that big or was it aircraft type-related?
Last edited by Cellnot; 16 May 2023 at 06:22 AM.
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