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Old 12 April 2023, 04:02 AM   #1
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Ltt Henri Blanchon and SLtt Blasse, KIA 10 July 1916

Ltt Henri Blanchon and SLtt Blasse, Escadrille C51 KIA, Herbecourt. According to the Albin Denis site the pilot was shot in the head. Were these aircrew in an air fight, and if so with whom?

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Old 12 April 2023, 08:16 AM   #2
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My notes have them downed by a Ltn Lehmann.

The FASWC has the name Plasse not Blasse
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Old 12 April 2023, 12:03 PM   #3
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Who is Ltn Lehmann?

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Old 13 April 2023, 01:19 AM   #4
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Ltt Plasse was KIA in ennemy combat

https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.def...uielem_zoom=30

Same for LT Henri Blanchon
https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.def...uielem_zoom=30
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Old 13 April 2023, 01:30 AM   #5
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look here too
http://memorialgenweb.org/memorial3/...php?id=6241430
http://memorialgenweb.org/memorial3/...php?id=6250801
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Old 13 April 2023, 11:43 AM   #6
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Leutnant Werner Lehmann KEK Voz? Three victories but no details according to "The Jasta Pilots".

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Old 14 April 2023, 09:01 AM   #7
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Bonjour mes amis

Johan Ryheul notes the following on page 134, within the chapter about KEK Vouziers, of KEKs AND FOKKERSTAFFELS -

"On 7 July Werner Lehmann was wounded in action. Surprisingly, the French Air Service made no claims that day, and Lehmann's injuries cannot have been serious. Four days later, two claims were made by the unit - a Caudron west of Vouziers by Lehmann, and a Nieuport west of Vouziers by Baldamus."

"The Caudron, 1392 from Escadrille C 64 was crewed by MdL Amaury de Saint-Pol and Gabriel Farigoul, who were both killed in action."

There would appear to be some conflict of data in this case. Do the comments refer to the same combat noted in this thread? Was the claim by Lehmann on 10 July or 11 July?

If we accept that Lehnamm was officially credited with three victories, Ryheul accounts for all, as follows

11/07/1916 - Caudron ("west of Vouziers")
26/07/1916 - Caudron 1527 ("near Beine-Nauroy, east of Reims")
07/09/1916 - Nieuport ("south-east of Reims between Fort de la Pompelle and
Cliquot Mühle")

Norman Franks relates in SHARKS AMONG MINNOWs, on page 138, that "Lehmann was assigned to the new Jasta 9 which was to be formed on 28 September at Vouziers, taking men like Lehmann from the former Fokkerstaffel there - AOK 3. He became the embryo unit's first casualty as it was beginning to form with Albatros DIIs, being killed in a crash at the Army Flug-park at Somme-Py on the 23rd." The book includes a photo of Lehmann standing before an Eindecker. Franks indicates that Lehmann had served with FA32.

The upshot of all this is that it would seem that Lehmann was able to down MdL Amaury de Saint-Pol and Sol Gabriel Farigoul of C 64 who had been flying Caudron 1392 on 11 July and not Lt Henri Blanchon and S/Lt Plasse of C 51 on 10 July.

This confusing compilation used the above mentioned texts as sources and THE FRENCH AIR SERVICE WAR CHRONOLOGY 1914-1918 by Bailey and Cony as well.

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Old 14 April 2023, 06:16 PM   #8
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Keith,
Adding to Kirk's excellent post, the Frontflieger site states that Ltn.d.R. Werner Lehmann was born in Berlin, on 25 April 1893, served with Jasta 9, AOK 3/KEK, and was killed on 23 September 1916, at Somme-Py.

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Old 17 April 2023, 09:52 AM   #9
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I was about to update Werner Lehmann's scores it seems I wrote his name by the wrong date. I had to did out the FASWC, Shark Among Minnows and the KEK books.
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Therefore... perhaps another German pilot (or a crew) made a claim on 10 July 1916?

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