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17 December 2018, 02:33 PM
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Identification of aircraft
Mates,
I need just a little assistance on this one. I believe that Ltn. Krefft, Ltn. Wolff, and Rittm Richthofen were flying in an Albatros C-111?
Any help would be appreciated. and tks in advance
tcrean7828
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17 December 2018, 04:36 PM
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Hi Tom,
While MvR was occasionally flown around in an Albatros C.III, on this occasion it was a Rumpler C.I, serial C.4516/15. If you have Ferko's book on Richthofen, check out page 48. And yes, MvR and Wolff both squeezed into the back cockpit while Krefft flew the plane.
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17 December 2018, 10:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregvan
Hi Tom,
While MvR was occasionally flown around in an Albatros C.III, on this occasion it was a Rumpler C.I, serial C.4516/15. If you have Ferko's book on Richthofen, check out page 48. And yes, MvR and Wolff both squeezed into the back cockpit while Krefft flew the plane.
Best regards,
Greg
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Mate,
Any idea as to when this took place?
tcrean7828
tom
Mate,
Greg thanks for the quick response, I had it written down somewhere, just couldn't remember where. Tks for the info
tcrean7828
tom
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Lieutenant der Reserve Werner Voss and the Pilots of Jasta 10 - ISBN: 978-1-4327-4873-9
Collaboration Effort with Jim Wilberg and Jack Herris on their book ' Aviators of the Great War’ Chapt 2, ISBN: 978-1-935881-03-2
'Thirty-Three Victories and Counting: The life and times of Oblt Kurt Robert Wilhelm Wolff' due out 2016.
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17 December 2018, 11:56 PM
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My guess...
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... would be that the photo was taken between 06.04.1917 (I) and 06.07.1917 (II).
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On the photo you can clearly see the shoulder insignia of a Hauptmann/Rittmeister (two "stars" and a button).
(II)
On this day Manfred von Richthofen was wounded in combat (a head wound) and it seems that it changed his personality and made him a more earnest person. I admit that the latter date indeed is not more than an educated guess...
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18 December 2018, 02:16 AM
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Here's a photo taken from the other side.
Ferko suggested that this was taken during a visit to the Fokker Werke at Schwerin-Goerries, since there is a very well-known photo of Krefft,Fokker, Wolff and MvR taken there. I'm sure somebody probably has some records that would indicate exactly when this was taken, but I can't help you.
Greg
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