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29 July 2018, 01:10 AM
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Forum Ace of Aces
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Purpose of channeled metal plates…
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Have a look at the following photos:
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/pi...pictureid=1847
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https://imgur.com/a/iFHmEdx
What was the purpose of these long curved plates? It seems that they were sometimes removed from the Fokker D.VII and this might mean that these devices were not really necessary.
For me there are two possibilities: keeping away the blast of both guns from the valves (maybe causing lubrication problems?) and/or channeling bullets away from the upper part of the engine (the latter sounds a bit strange and in this case both plates would have had a considerable weight due to the needed thickness/stability).
Further photos of these metal plates (or the lack of them) can be found here (the different Fokker D.VII kits, archive photos):
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/
Who has an answer?
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29 July 2018, 04:08 PM
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 My "guess" Volker would be to keep the heat of the muzzle blast off the exposed rockers & valve springs.
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30 July 2018, 04:36 AM
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Barry is correct; blast deflectors. Last thing you need is bits of expended powder/grit on the valves. They are folded from steel into sort of an inverted 'W', with a flat between the Vs, not curved.
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30 July 2018, 05:00 AM
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Thank you for...
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... for your answers. I always thought it more probable, that the blast was more a problem than a bullet. But now I know it.
"...not curved ..."
The term "curved" was caused by my lack of corret British technical terms. I just wanted to express that this sheet of metal was "not flat"...
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30 July 2018, 08:07 AM
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Here is a good view of the section of the Blast Protectors .
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30 July 2018, 11:07 AM
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Stutze fur Flugzeugzerstorer
I notice this machine also , is fitted with the support for the device .
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30 July 2018, 01:53 PM
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..and rectangular ejection chutes. Nice find, John.
Volker, your English is much better than my German.
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31 July 2018, 09:46 AM
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Wow...
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... another picture of this little known device for holding the " Flugzeugzerstörer"!
Sometimes you get answers to much, much older questions here.
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Last edited by Volker_Nemsch; 31 July 2018 at 10:01 AM.
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31 July 2018, 03:44 PM
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I think that the role of these blast troughs is not so much concerned with the grit and dirt that might be emitted by the guns themselves but even more the grimy grease and oil on the engine that the muzzle blast of the guns would dislodge and blow into the valve train, including the camshafts and rockers. Another great argument for valve covers! Ransom
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31 July 2018, 03:51 PM
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Perhaps they might also prevent the muzzle blast from igniting any oil/grease on the engine?
Tony
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