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10 April 2018, 01:23 PM
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Observer
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: 80470 Ferrières, France
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56th squadron RFC
Dear Sirs
My name is Paul Allen and I have lived in Picardy since 1994.
I work as an independent since retiring and one of my activities is working as a tour guide in the “Underground City of Naours” (UCN). The UCN is 30 minutes North of Amiens in the Somme, France.
The UCN was dug out of the chalk and provided a refuge for up to 2000 people in times of invasion e.g. 30 year war (1618 to 1648).
During WW1 it was a tourist attraction for soldiers, and several thousand soldiers left their names on the tunnel walls.
I was guiding a group of Australians yesterday when I came across the following inscription
P W Keats ?
56 Squadron
RFC
23/4
I managed to miss off the date when I took the photograph but checked it today and it is 23 / 04 / 1918. I enclose a copy of my photograph so that you may check my interpretation.
I trust that the above may be of interest and look forward to your reaction in due course. It would be wonderful to identify the individual before the centenary.
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10 April 2018, 02:22 PM
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Forum Ace
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Owen Sound Ontario Canada
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Hello Paul and welcome to the Forum.
I have to wonder about that inscription because the RFC ceased to exist on April first, or 1 /04 /18. It merged with the RNAS to become the Royal Air Force.
Cheers,
Tony
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10 April 2018, 03:11 PM
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Forum Ace of Aces
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Bellevue, Nebraska
Posts: 4,570
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul in the Somme
Dear Sirs
My name is Paul Allen and I have lived in Picardy since 1994.
I work as an independent since retiring and one of my activities is working as a tour guide in the “Underground City of Naours” (UCN). The UCN is 30 minutes North of Amiens in the Somme, France.
The UCN was dug out of the chalk and provided a refuge for up to 2000 people in times of invasion e.g. 30 year war (1618 to 1648).
During WW1 it was a tourist attraction for soldiers, and several thousand soldiers left their names on the tunnel walls.
I was guiding a group of Australians yesterday when I came across the following inscription
P W Keats ?
56 Squadron
RFC
23/4
I managed to miss off the date when I took the photograph but checked it today and it is 23 / 04 / 1918. I enclose a copy of my photograph so that you may check my interpretation.
I trust that the above may be of interest and look forward to your reaction in due course. It would be wonderful to identify the individual before the centenary.
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10 April 2018, 04:51 PM
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Rest in Peace
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Moruya,NSW. AUSTRALIA
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 G'day Paul! Very interesting find you made there!
I checked through my Osprey Elite Unit book on 56 Sqd but found no note of him but that really proves nothing.
Might I suggest you try to contact Alex Revell who wrote "High in the Empty Blue" the seminal history of 56 Sqd.
If you send me a private message I will give you his email address.
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10 April 2018, 06:07 PM
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Forum Ace
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,048
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I think it should also be considered that this could have been a rigger, fitter or mechanic. Steve
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11 April 2018, 12:45 AM
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Observer
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: MN USA
Posts: 62
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56th
Hey Paul,
tcrean7828 has welcomed you to the right place for what you'll want to know!
And you've almost come to the right place for any answer concerning 56th questions. But the venerable ghost from here who really knows most of any 56th lore is Alex Revell, still spritely and available across the pond, as Barry Hickson will direct you. Welcome, and please let us know of your acquired knowledge, whichever continent acquired.
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11 April 2018, 01:39 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Francisco, California,USA
Posts: 1,768
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1/Pte. Percy Wilfred Keals R.F.C. & R.A.F. 19636
Paul,
Welcome to The Forum. No officers or other ranks with the name P.W. Keats
or P. Keats are found in the R.F.C. and R.A.F. service records at the National
Archive, Kew, nor does the R.A.F. Muster Roll of April, 1918, list anyone with
this name. The Muster Roll lists only John Henry Keats and William James
Keats, but it does list P.W. Keals, service number 19636, who enlisted on
28 January 1916. I believe this is your man. Further research revealed the
following:
Percy Wilfred Keals was born in 1887, at Kilburn, Middlesex, the son of
William and Fanny Keals. The family was residing in Willesden,
Middlesex in 1901, and at Battersea, London S.W. in 1911. Percy
married Catherine Gilchrist in London, in 1912. His prewar occupation
was a motor cyclist, his rank with the R.F.C. was Air Mechanic, 1st
Class and as a Private 1st Class with the R.A.F. He is not listed as
an aerial gunner so he probably had a ground crew assignment.
You can obtain a copy of his service record from the National
Archives, Kew, by using this reference: "Percy Wilfred Keals,
AIR 79/212/19636." He survived the war but I could not find
any information about his postwar life. I hope this is helpful.
Best regards,
Josquin
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11 April 2018, 02:48 AM
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Rest in Peace
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 6,121
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Hi
He is not in the extensive listing of 56 Sqn's ground crew in Alex Revell's seminal history of 56 Sqn - High in the Empty Blue.
Russ
PS for Josquin & Graeme - my 'like' button does not seem to work at the moment. Been trying to give 'likes' for a whole raft of posts by yourself and Graeme but no joy.
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11 April 2018, 05:25 AM
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Rest in Peace
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kent, England
Posts: 5,545
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Hi Russ
Been having the same problem myself - sometimes I've clicked on 'like' but nothing's happened.
Graeme
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11 April 2018, 07:50 AM
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Observer
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: 80470 Ferrières, France
Posts: 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MASTIFF
Hello Paul and welcome to the Forum.
I have to wonder about that inscription because the RFC ceased to exist on April first, or 1 /04 /18. It merged with the RNAS to become the Royal Air Force.
Cheers,
Tony
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Hello Tony and thanks for your message. I had the same thought about the date but I suppose that the loyalty of men to the RFC did not keep pace with the changes to its name.
kind regards
Paul
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