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Old 25 March 2017, 08:07 AM   #1
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Question Red Baron geschwader stock?

Hermann Goering with the Red Baron's geschwader stock
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Did Goering keep it.....lost In World War II perhaps?

fate of Fokker DVII 5125/18 Goering's plane?
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Old 25 March 2017, 11:53 AM   #2
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Not sure on the fate of this aircraft. It's posible that it was turn over at the EOW.

This is F 5125 that indicates a high compression engine. We had discussed this this in few years ago in a thread by Dave Watts. Its posible that The F planes took a different type of petrol for this engine.

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Old 25 March 2017, 01:03 PM   #3
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One biographer of Goering {Mosely} "The Reichmarshal" had a version of this picture from Goering stepson in his book.....was this Goering all white Fokker DV II?

By the way..in regard to Geschwader stock? did it survive?
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Certainly looks like his all White D.VII.

Have never heard of anything about the G'stock though.
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Old 25 March 2017, 09:50 PM   #5
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This question was up for debate some time ago, nobody seems to know what happened to it.
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Old 26 March 2017, 03:37 PM   #6
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The stock would certainly be the ultimate relic if found. Probably disappeared like the contents of the Schweidnitz 'museum'.
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The stock would certainly be the ultimate relic if found. Probably disappeared like the contents of the Schweidnitz 'museum'.
Between some of us, we believe that the planes were removed from the museum before it was bombed in 1944. They were moved a location in Poland. It was under guard untill the end of the war where the guards simply just left it. The locals in the town turned anything thay could find into fire wood and stripped them for anything thay could use.

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The Allies went thru Fat Hermans house at the end of the war and found alot of stolen art, I wonder if someone found the Geschwader Stock there ?
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http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/sh...g+white+fokker

Film clip of Göring in the cockpit of a [[Fokker D.VII]] during World War I:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring
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The simple answer is that the blackthorn walking stick disappeared during WWII. Goering had mementoes of MvR including a locket with a lock of hair. While Goering was in prison, an American doctor who knew him acquired some of his "treasures" including the MvR locket. There are many possibilities....Goering may have given it away. It may have been found in his home and souvenired by someone. Another possibility, it may have been on the train of his treasures evacuated near the end of the war and was lost there as those items were hauled away by locals. Very few people would have recognized the stick as anything of value.
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