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Old 4 November 2014, 05:12 PM   #1
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Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #1357

Many of these flying boats look alike to me, but other participants will probably have no problem with this.




Score at the end of # 1356: Experimental Yokosho Nakajima Tractor Seaplane - the first original design of Chikuhei Nakajima completed in February 1915.

241.60 Dave_Kent
207.50 Rbailey
153.40 Varese2002
79.60 richard B
55.30 Aquilius
45.60 Tork1945
39.45 Lodzermensch
33.30 Cruze
30.58 Rod Filan
30.00 YavorD
24.95 Froggy
19.50 Albrecht
16.90 Flamingo
16.20 Breguet
12.50 Missouri Mule
11.50 matte_kudasai
10.45 GregE
10.40 Brad
10.30 Patrick
09.80 Alex1965
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.20 Rufe
08.50 Doc
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 Berman
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.25 Ermeio
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.40 John McKenzie
06.30 HoHun
06.10 Jim
06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
06.00 Old Man
06.00 Sobrien
05.80 RobW
05.70 vossiewulf
05.70 AROTH
05.70 dpolglaze
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.20 Maze
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 AL FORBES
05.00 Catfish
05.00 Kristjanr
05.00 machinist
05.00 SCMc
05.00 Tom L ......................... Above this line, have to wait 12 hours
04.40 Ross Moorhouse ........... Below this line, may start immediately
04.40 RC Gardner
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
04.00 Luf-Rick
03.40 RAF56_Ball
03.00 Linhawk
03.00 Lupodimontenero
03.00 Pfalz-Scout
03.00 Totalspoon
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 Cigogne
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 albatros1234
02.00 austin08
02.00 Expositor
02.00 Misa2
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 AWP101
01.50 MickMcGrath
01.00 redbaron1917
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Mike Westrop
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Doug las7
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.50 TimothySielbeck
00.40 Johnnick
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

Previous: http://members.shaw.ca/flyingaces/br...enge/index.htm

The Rules:
1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !) and the poster re-post within the same thread, the 12hours handicap beginning from that point.
6. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
7. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
8. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
9. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
10. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
11. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules is BREGUET.
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Old 5 November 2014, 10:47 PM   #2
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Analyzing this picture there are the following distinctive features on this flying boat
  • three-bay biplane wing
  • upper wing centre section is open
  • large water-cooled engine driving a pusher propeller
  • radiator in front of the engine
  • wind screen for the crew which is seating side-by-side
  • in the front of the fuselage is an observer / gunner position with a ring construction around it
  • flat upper part of the front of the boat

At least we are looking at a big Austro-Hungarian flying boat with a crew of three, which limits the choice of possibilities to only one design.

This is the Lohner Großflugboot Type X (factory identification) which was identified by the K.u.k Navy as K.u.k. Seeflugzeug K. A crew of three was carried, pilot, observer and mechanic. Only a single example was built by the Lohner firm in 1915. It was delivered in May 1916 to the K.u.k. Navy base Pola. Its career ended when a Marineleutnant flew over to Italy on 11 June 1917.

The engine fitted is a 300 hp Austro-Daimler 12-cylinder V-engine with water cooling.

This single machine got registration K 300.

This picture was taken inside the Lohner factory at Floridsdorf and is part of a small series of pictures where the machine was photographed from all sides.

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Old 7 November 2014, 09:43 AM   #3
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That's the one.

Score at the end of # 1357: Lohner Type X (KuK K)

241.60 Dave_Kent
207.50 Rbailey
153.40 Varese2002
79.60 richard B
55.30 Aquilius
46.60 Tork1945
39.45 Lodzermensch
33.30 Cruze
30.58 Rod Filan
30.00 YavorD
24.95 Froggy
19.50 Albrecht
16.90 Flamingo
16.20 Breguet
12.50 Missouri Mule
11.50 matte_kudasai
10.45 GregE
10.40 Brad
10.30 Patrick
09.80 Alex1965
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.20 Rufe
08.50 Doc
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 Berman
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.25 Ermeio
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.40 John McKenzie
06.30 HoHun
06.10 Jim
06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
06.00 Old Man
06.00 Sobrien
05.80 RobW
05.70 vossiewulf
05.70 AROTH
05.70 dpolglaze
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.20 Maze
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 AL FORBES
05.00 Catfish
05.00 Kristjanr
05.00 machinist
05.00 SCMc
05.00 Tom L ......................... Above this line, have to wait 12 hours
04.40 Ross Moorhouse ........... Below this line, may start immediately
04.40 RC Gardner
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
04.00 Luf-Rick
03.40 RAF56_Ball
03.00 Linhawk
03.00 Lupodimontenero
03.00 Pfalz-Scout
03.00 Totalspoon
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 Cigogne
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 albatros1234
02.00 austin08
02.00 Expositor
02.00 Misa2
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 AWP101
01.50 MickMcGrath
01.00 redbaron1917
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Mike Westrop
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Doug las7
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.50 TimothySielbeck
00.40 Johnnick
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher
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