Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #1202

[Dave_Kent]

For your consideration

Dave

Scoreboard after challenge #1201; Itoh Emi 2


198.70 Dave_Kent ☼☼☼
166.50 Rbailey ☼☼☼
153.40 Varese2002 ☼☼☼
73.60 richard B
46.60 Aquilius ☼
42.60 Tork1945☼
38.75 Lodzermensch ☼
33.30 Cruze ☼
30.58 Rod Filan ☼
27.50 YavorD ☼
24.75 Froggy
16.90 Flamingo
14.00 Breguet
10.50 matte_kudasai
10.45 GregE
10.30 Patrick
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.50 Albrecht
09.20 Rufe
09.00 Brad
08.80 Alex1965
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 Berman
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.50 Doc
07.25 Ermeio
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.30 HoHun
06.10 Jim
06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
06.00 Old Man
06.00 Sobrien
05.80 RobW
05.70 vossiewulf
05.70 AROTH
05.70 dpolglaze
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.40 John McKenzie
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.20 Maze
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 AL FORBES
05.00 Catfish
05.00 Kristjanr
05.00 SCMc
05.00 Tom L ............Above this line, have to wait 12 hours

04.40 Ross Moorhouse ........... Below this line, may start immediately
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
04.00 Luf-Rick
03.00 Linhawk
03.00 Totalspoon
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 RC Gardner
02.30 Cigogne
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 albatros1234
02.00 austin08
02.00 Lupodimontenero
02.00 Misa2
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 expositor
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Mike Westrop
01.00 missouri mule
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 RAF56_Ball
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Doug las7
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Johnnick
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

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[rc.gardner]

The hand of the Vickers drawing office seems evident from the wing structure. The undercarriage is shorter than normal on a Vickers FB and I can't see any sign of a radial engine, so I conclude that it is a FB26, possibly powered by a hisso engine.

With kind regards,

Bob

Postscript; as it doesn't have three guns poking out of the front it is not a FB26a, the putative ground attack aircraft. So its a FB26. I can't tell from the photograph if it has the enlarged radiator blocks. Presumably the gun pointing at 45 degrees up, indicates that this is the Home Defence variant.

[Dave_Kent]

Hi Bob:

Mostly there, but not an F.B. 26.

Dave

[Rbailey]

How about the FB. 25 - nightfiighter protoype? Two-seater with big gun - see http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/vickers_fb-25.php

[rc.gardner]

Dear Mr Kent and Mr Bailey,

I regret that my husband, Bob Gardner, was so sure that he'd got this one correct that he is now trying to drown himself in our goldfish pond, for which i am most grateful.

Mrs Gardner

[Froggy]

Originally Posted by rc.gardner

Dear Mr Kent and Mr Bailey,

I regret that my husband, Bob Gardner, was so sure that he'd got this one correct that he is now trying to drown himself in our goldfish pond, for which i am most grateful.

Mrs Gardner

I like your sense of humor !

[Dave_Kent]

Bob, please don't drown yourself in the goldfish pond, it's bad for the fish. Besides, I think the other players may have had the same answer, as yours was the only one at the 12 hour mark.

I will split the point evenly, and ask Rbailey, who nailed it as the F.B. 25, to post the next Challenge.

Dave

Scoreboard after challenge #1202; Vickers F.B. 25


198.70 Dave_Kent ☼☼☼
167.00 Rbailey ☼☼☼
153.40 Varese2002 ☼☼☼
73.60 richard B
46.60 Aquilius ☼
42.60 Tork1945☼
38.75 Lodzermensch ☼
33.30 Cruze ☼
30.58 Rod Filan ☼
27.50 YavorD ☼
24.75 Froggy
16.90 Flamingo
14.00 Breguet
10.50 matte_kudasai
10.45 GregE
10.30 Patrick
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.50 Albrecht
09.20 Rufe
09.00 Brad
08.80 Alex1965
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 Berman
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.50 Doc
07.25 Ermeio
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.30 HoHun
06.10 Jim
06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
06.00 Old Man
06.00 Sobrien
05.80 RobW
05.70 vossiewulf
05.70 AROTH
05.70 dpolglaze
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.40 John McKenzie
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.20 Maze
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 AL FORBES
05.00 Catfish
05.00 Kristjanr
05.00 SCMc
05.00 Tom L ............Above this line, have to wait 12 hours

04.40 Ross Moorhouse ........... Below this line, may start immediately
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
04.00 Luf-Rick
03.00 Linhawk
03.00 Totalspoon
02.80 RC Gardner
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 Cigogne
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 albatros1234
02.00 austin08
02.00 Lupodimontenero
02.00 Misa2
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 expositor
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Mike Westrop
01.00 missouri mule
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 RAF56_Ball
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Doug las7
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Johnnick
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

[rc.gardner]

Originally Posted by Froggy

I like your sense of humor !

Thanks Froggy; one has to be careful with rost-boeuf humour. Sometimes it doesn't translate to different cultures!

Bob

[Rbailey]

The original version of the FB 25 had a searchlight in the nose and a nose wheel; I have not seen a picture of it in that form, if indeed it was ever completed that way, but there is a sketch in Bruce's book. The machine carried the 1.59-inch Breech-Loading Vickers Q.F. Gun, a British light artillery piece that was experimented with as an aircraft weapon. The type was unsuccessful.