Breguet's Crash File Challenge #729

[Albrecht]

Scoreboard after Crash File # 728: L.V.G. CV

102.45 FLAMINGO ¤
93.00 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤
73.95 Lodzermensch ¤
54.00 Froggy ¤
51.00 richard B ¤
39.00 Rbailey ¤
33.70 YavorD ¤
31.80 Breguet ¤
19.25 AROTH
18.45 AQUILIUS
17.00 John McKenzie
16.30 Varese2002
12.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
11.30 Rod_Filan
08.80 Patrick
08.10 Gregvan
08.00 ONEALM
07.50 matte_kudasai
06.40 Expositor
06.00 Dan_San_Abbott
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Gilles
05.25 Rexee
05.20 Albatros1234
05.20 Crankcase
05.20 Laserlloyd
05.20 SCMc
05.00 Albatros_Ace
05.00 Kilian .................. Have to wait three hours

04.50 Rufe ................... May start immediately
04.00 Al Forbes
04.00 Berman
04.00 Edmondy
04.00 Eric
03.80 gregorydquist
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
04.10 Catfish
03.00 Crimso
03.00 Sobrien
02.00 Johnnick
02.70 Tbstreet
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Missouri Mule
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.50 Albrecht
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.10 Jellytwig
01.00 ArisKosionidis
01.00 airwarrior
01.00 Ampovandak
01.00 Brad
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cigogne
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Mark
01.00 misa2
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Tork1945
01.00 Troy Raines
01.00 ulpilot
01.00 Vossiewulf
00.50 Aeronaut

Previous Breguet's Crash Files
http://members.shaw.ca/flyingaces/br.crashfiles/

The rules:

1. All aircraft are of the 1914-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period).
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner! Offenders will be dealt with severely!
4. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in it's identification.
5. And whoever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host!
6. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
7. The final arbitrator of all things to do with the "rules" is Breguet.
8. In cases where the arbitrator's game answer is in question the decision rests with the current leader of the table.


For your Consideration:

[vossiewulf]

One can tell from the twin boom layout, 2-bay wings, and wingtip profile that the one one the right is an Ago C.II. Fuselage of the left one looks something like Fokker D.I but I'm not sure of that.

[richard B]

Ago C II for the twin boom and an Aviatik C I for the missing engine's panel ...

Cheers

Richard

[Albrecht]

Looks like we'll have to divvy up some points. Since there are 2 aircraft, I will count each one as .5 points. According to Die Königlich Bayerischen Fliegertruppen it is an Ago C I. I don't know how you tell the difference with the C II without seeing the engine so I will award .2 points each. richard B gets the additional .5 points for the Aviatik C I. richard B is now In charge of #730.


Scoreboard after Crash File # 729: Ago C I and Aviatik C I

102.45 FLAMINGO ¤
93.00 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤
73.95 Lodzermensch ¤
54.00 Froggy ¤
51.70 richard B ¤
39.00 Rbailey ¤
33.70 YavorD ¤
31.80 Breguet ¤
19.25 AROTH
18.45 AQUILIUS
17.00 John McKenzie
16.30 Varese2002
12.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
11.30 Rod_Filan
08.80 Patrick
08.10 Gregvan
08.00 ONEALM
07.50 matte_kudasai
06.40 Expositor
06.00 Dan_San_Abbott
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Gilles
05.25 Rexee
05.20 Albatros1234
05.20 Crankcase
05.20 Laserlloyd
05.20 SCMc
05.00 Albatros_Ace
05.00 Kilian .................. Have to wait three hours

04.50 Rufe ................... May start immediately
04.00 Al Forbes
04.00 Berman
04.00 Edmondy
04.00 Eric
03.80 gregorydquist
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
04.10 Catfish
03.00 Crimso
03.00 Sobrien
02.00 Johnnick
02.70 Tbstreet
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Missouri Mule
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.50 Albrecht
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.20 Vossiewulf
01.10 Jellytwig
01.00 ArisKosionidis
01.00 airwarrior
01.00 Ampovandak
01.00 Brad
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cigogne
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Mark
01.00 misa2
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Tork1945
01.00 Troy Raines
01.00 ulpilot
00.50 Aeronaut

[vossiewulf]

Albrecht is right, it's a C.I. I got confused because the only pic I have of the C.I shows unpainted or dark painted nacelles while several C.II pics show the white nacelles with the black centerline.

But the C.I had box radiators on the side of the cockpit tub, while the C.II didn't, and I'm pretty sure I can see the box radiators behind the guy on the right. You should have kept the contest going we were both wrong

[Albrecht]

Perhaps. Honestly, though, I have seen pictures of the Ago C I with and without the radiators on the side of the nacelle. I have also seen them with different shaped rudders and vertical stabs. It appears that the C I went through changes before it became designated as the C II. The last engine change seems to be the reason for the C II designation.

Gregvan might be able to educate us on the differences if he is viewing.