Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #1106

[Brad]

I can't believe this one has not been posted... an easy one to help the non-aces out!


Scoreboard at the end of Challenge #1105: WKF 80.04

175.90 Dave_Kent ☼☼☼
153.40 Varese2002 ☼☼☼
150.15 Rbailey☼☼☼
67.60 richard B ☼☼
44.00 Aquilius ☼
38.55 Lodzermensch ☼
34.90 Tork1945☼
33.30 Cruze ☼
30.58 Rod Filan ☼
26.80 YavorD ☼
23.55 Froggy
16.90 Flamingo
13.00 Breguet
10.50 matte_kudasai
10.45 GregE
10.30 Patrick
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.20 Rufe
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 Berman
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.50 Doc
07.40 Brad
07.25 Ermeio
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.30 HoHun
06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
06.00 Old Man
06.00 Sobrien
05.80 RobW
05.70 AROTH
05.70 dpolglaze
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.40 John McKenzie
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.20 Maze
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 AL FORBES
05.00 Kristjanr
05.00 SCMc
05.00 Tom L ......................... At and above this line, have to wait 12 hours

04.50 Jim ........... At and below this line, may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
04.00 Luf-Rick
03.00 Catfish
03.00 Linhawk
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 Cigogne
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 albatros1234
02.00 austin08
02.00 Lupodimontenero
02.00 Misa2
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Mike Westrop
01.00 missouri mule
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Douglas7
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Johnnick
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher


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The Rules:

1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !) and the poster re-post within the same thread, the 12hours handicap beginning from that point.
6. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
7. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
8. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
9. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
10. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
11. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules is BREGUET.

[Brad]

Come on non-aces... this isn't some obscure prototype, it was a production combat aircraft. You can do it!

[Dave_Kent]

This large 4 engine biplane is the Russian Sikorsky Ilya Muromets.

Dave

[Rbailey]

Sikorski Ilya Murometz – S. 22 I think, from the structures under the top wing. Large 4-engine biplane, unequal span wings, with triple tail and passengers standing on the upper “deck” while in flight are distinctive.

[Brad]

Wow, almost a tie... but Dave won the race, although RBailey gave more complete info. BTW I'm not sure which variant, S-22 might be right, especially with the skis. (BTW I was trying really hard to find a pic of the twin-engine trainer one to REALLY throw y'all off...)

Scoreboard at the end of Challenge #1106: Sikorsky Ilya Muromets

176.90 Dave_Kent ☼☼☼
153.40 Varese2002 ☼☼☼
150.15 Rbailey☼☼☼
67.60 richard B ☼☼
44.00 Aquilius ☼
38.55 Lodzermensch ☼
34.90 Tork1945☼
33.30 Cruze ☼
30.58 Rod Filan ☼
26.80 YavorD ☼
23.55 Froggy
16.90 Flamingo
13.00 Breguet
10.50 matte_kudasai
10.45 GregE
10.30 Patrick
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.20 Rufe
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 Berman
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.50 Doc
07.40 Brad
07.25 Ermeio
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.30 HoHun
06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
06.00 Old Man
06.00 Sobrien
05.80 RobW
05.70 AROTH
05.70 dpolglaze
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.40 John McKenzie
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.20 Maze
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 AL FORBES
05.00 Kristjanr
05.00 SCMc
05.00 Tom L ......................... At and above this line, have to wait 12 hours

04.50 Jim ........... At and below this line, may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
04.00 Luf-Rick
03.00 Catfish
03.00 Linhawk
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 Cigogne
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 albatros1234
02.00 austin08
02.00 Lupodimontenero
02.00 Misa2
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Mike Westrop
01.00 missouri mule
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Douglas7
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Johnnick
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

[Brad]

p.s. I really thought one of the lower-scoring guys could figure that one out!

[Tork1945]

A few points on this famous picture

• The two man standing on the top of the machine are not free standing, but are actually standing within a sort of cage structure which is not visible in this picture

• The picture shows the first Sikorsky Ilya Murometz (No. 107) coming in to land early 1914 on the Saint Petersburg airfield Korpusnoi [Корпусной]

• The nomenclature of the Ilya Murometz machines in different versions is not crystal clear (really an understatement] as can be read on the Forum Aerodrome here

• Although everybody outside Russia identifies the Ilya Murometz machine as Sikorsky machines, they are identified in Russia with the name of the manufacturer RBVZ - Russo-Baltic Wagon Factory [РБВЗ - Русско-Балтийский вагонный завод]

Tork1945

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Tork1945

A few points on this famous picture

• The two man standing on the top of the machine are not free standing, but are actually standing within a sort of cage structure which is not visible in this picture

• The picture shows the first Sikorsky Ilya Murometz (No. 107) coming in to land early 1914 on the Saint Petersburg airfield Korpusnoi [Корпусной]

• The nomenclature of the Ilya Murometz machines in different versions is not crystal clear (really an understatement] as can be read on the Forum Aerodrome here

• Although everybody outside Russia identifies the Ilya Murometz machine as Sikorsky machines, they are identified in Russia with the name of the manufacturer RBVZ - Russo-Baltic Wagon Factory [РБВЗ - Русско-Балтийский вагонный завод]

Tork1945

Thanks Tork! Great educational info! (That IS the purpose of this "challenge," right?)

Now who is going to build the flying replica of this? lol