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28 February 2012, 11:20 PM
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Forum Ace
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Originally Posted by LaosDave
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Gosh, at that price you wonder what they are willing to sell the rest of the plane for! 
marc
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29 February 2012, 04:57 AM
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Scout Pilot
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Location: Germany
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Hello Dave,
5,995.00 £ it's to much, because of the marine blue-gray color, it could be from an Albatros.
greetings
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29 February 2012, 10:59 AM
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It looks plausible in the photo but the price sounds too high to begin with and on top of that there is no provenance and no guarantee so $9,500 seems like a huge risk.
Also, I am not sure it would be possible to attribute it to a particular type of aircraft, and it could just as easily be from a trainer or observation aircraft as from a fighter.
Last edited by Jim; 29 February 2012 at 11:07 AM.
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29 February 2012, 11:17 AM
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The value of such a rare artifact is probably realistic. It certainly looks authentic to me.
I wonder what value my fully documented (much provenance here) Fokker D.VII lozenge wing fabric with German cross would have today relative to the eBay-offered German cross?
-Gary Sewall
Last edited by gipsymoth236k; 29 February 2012 at 11:23 AM.
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29 February 2012, 02:19 PM
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Forum Ace of Aces
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Nice
Gary -
Nice piece - I'll give you $15 cash for it
Thanks for sharing that....
Mike
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29 February 2012, 09:59 PM
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Hi Mike,
Oh, I'm sure you meant to add few more zeros to your generous offer. I might take that!
-Gary
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1 March 2012, 12:14 AM
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Observer
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Northern Europe
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Gary,
I'll chip in another £15 ...
On a serious note, have you made any studies / written something about this piece?
I notice for example that the white bits were done first, then a thin black line was drawn as a datum, and then the rest of the black was added.
I also note that the black has faded from where it was applied to the "irregular hexagons", but more of it is left where it was applied over the white paint.
Dave
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3 March 2012, 10:16 AM
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Hi Mike and Dave,
Yes, this German lozenge fabric artifact has been studied very closely. It has it all - repeat pattern 5 color lozenge fabric, lozenge rib tapes, threaded rib stitching, clear dope coating, varnish outer coating, pencil tracings from stencils marking the German cross outline for painting, black and white painted German cross, two stitched fabric joiner seams, fabric undersurface remnant patterns from the D.VII's top left wing's serrated plywood leading edge, etc.
I have several close up photos of this fabric, thanks to my friend Robert Karr's study of it.
Yes, much provenance here - this large piece of fabric came from the Lt. Clayton Bissell estate as one of his Fokker D.VII victories from combat action on October 28, 1918, NE of Jenlain, France. Bissell was flying a Sopwith Camel with the AEF 148th Aero Squadron at the time of this victory. I have a couple other artifacts from that same D.VII, as well as Bissell's Combat Report of that action, and a photo of his Camel.
Good stuff, eh?
-Gary Sewall
Last edited by gipsymoth236k; 3 March 2012 at 10:43 AM.
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26 March 2012, 05:55 PM
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Observer
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Probably around 12-18,000 for an ace documented fabric. Depending on who the German pilot was.
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