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5 February 2011, 10:39 PM
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Two-seater Pilot
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Royal Aircraft Factory, H Dept
I notice on drawings of various instruments produced by the Royal Aircraft Factory, that H department created them.
Does anyone know what H department was responsible for?
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10 February 2011, 06:42 AM
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Excellent question,
Nobody seems to know, neither do I, sorry.
Perhaps you can shed some light on it, you got the drawings !?
FD
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10 February 2011, 07:57 AM
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10 February 2011, 01:01 PM
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Hello Bob . ......I do not have the answer , however it may be that Paul Hare , who has specialised in R.A.Factory history , and who is a member , having posted here on a few occasions ,. may chip in if he knows the answer ........ If not , a PM might be an idea .
FWIW , ....Personally , I don't recall having seen any such Dept. letter or number on any of the hundreds of RAF construction drawings that I have or have seen , so I would tend to agree with you on the lines that "Dept H" is probably a separate " Instrument , Drawing Office and Prototype / Test Building " ? and that this building has been designated as " Dept H " ....This might simply be to differentiate this area of expertise from the General drawing office dept , also for ease of Drg. tracability .
I do not believe that it would have had anything to do with aircraft type designation such as BE , SE , RE etc......These machines were quite likely being drawn up at the same time , side by side , in the same drawing office ....Drawing numbers being issued , and entered in the log book , on a next come basis , rather than a batch being assigned to a particular machine type .
Regards John M
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11 February 2011, 12:58 AM
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R.A.F. operation, 1916 [Source: Report of the Committee on Royal Aircraft Factory, Appendix B].
Another R.A.F H Department document (T.760 Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, July 1916, DSIR 23/774, National Archives, Kew).
Regards,
Yavor
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Last edited by YavorD; 11 February 2011 at 12:59 AM.
Reason: Typo.
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11 February 2011, 01:40 AM
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Dept. H
Thanks YavorD for the charts ..
So it would appear that Dept. H comes under the control of the Assistant Engineer - Physics " ...and covers various sciences ....Instrument , Sub Drawing Office ,Workshop & Instrument Tests , ( as I had surmised ) , But additionally :-Wireless , Aerodynamics , Chemists , Fabric research & Tests and Photography .
John M
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11 February 2011, 03:49 AM
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Bletchly
Bob,
Were the CD's you told us about several years ago ever produced?
With kind regards,
Bob
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Author; British WW1 Aircraft Propellers; German WW1 Aircraft Propellers
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11 February 2011, 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John McKenzie
... So it would appear that Dept. H comes under the control of the Assistant Engineer - Physics " ...and covers various sciences ....Instrument , Sub Drawing Office ,Workshop & Instrument Tests , ( as I had surmised ) , But additionally :-Wireless , Aerodynamics , Chemists , Fabric research & Tests and Photography .
John M
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... or Engineer in charge of Designs / Assistant Engineer Designs / Designs Drawing Office / Checking and Tracing;
... or Engineer in charge of Designs / Assistant Engineer Designs / Calculations.
The report mentioned above does not provide internal designations.
Regards,
Yavor
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11 February 2011, 07:21 AM
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YavorD......Sorry ,..But if you look at your own posting of Appendix B , you will see from the " Tree " that the only person in charge of both " Aerodynamics " AND " Instruments " , is The Assistant Engineer - Physics .
Both of the posted documents here are shown to have come from Dept H .
The First being the initial post by Aircraftclocks ref. to Instruments and the
The Second , being your own FE8 wind tunnel model data document 605Z , which can fairly be assumed to have come under Aerodynamics ....both marked Dept H ......The Assistant Engineer - Physics , is directly under the Assistant and then Superintendent RAF .
Note from your own Appendix B ....The "Engineer in charge of designs" , plainly does NOT have under his control the Wireless , Aerodynamics , Instruments etc....This is solely the responsibility of the " Assistant Engineer - Physics " and therefore this persons dept is known as Dept H ..........QED !.
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11 February 2011, 10:18 AM
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