ww1 German pilot

juno44 · 1 December 2010, 08:09 AM

Hello out there, I'm trying to get info on a German WW1 pilot named PHILIPP MULLER
I have a photo of him next to his single wing airplane with the markings E29/15

I've looked through most of the Jasta groups but did not come up with his name
he may have been with the Jasta 2 group but not sure, Thanks

tcrean7828 · 1 December 2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by juno44

Hello out there, I'm trying to get info on a German WW1 pilot named PHILIPP MULLER
I have a photo of him next to his single wing airplane with the markings E29/15

I've looked through most of the Jasta groups but did not come up with his name
he may have been with the Jasta 2 group but not sure, Thanks

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Old Man · 1 December 2010, 02:06 PM

People more expert in matters German than myself will, hopefully, weigh in here, Sir, but a serial number of E29/15, on a monoplane, should indicate it was a Fokker EI, and in service by the end of the summer of 1915. This should indicate the man was with a Feldfliegerabteilung, a general purpose unit of two-seat machines, or possibly a Kampfstaffel, a 'battle' unit used for escort and bombing. Skimming my copy of Mr. van Wyngarden's 'Early German Aces' I do not see any mention of the name. But it would seem from that serial number that late 1915 to mid 1916 is the period you want to look into for this gentleman.

juno44 · 1 December 2010, 06:27 PM

here is a photo of the pilot and aircraft

FOKKERJ · 1 December 2010, 07:32 PM

Hello Juno44,

By your join date, you must be new here.
Welcome to the Aerodrome.

Someone will be along shortly to help you beyond the great information Old Man has provided.

Thanks for sharing the fotograf.... Nice.

Cheers, Jay aka FOKKERJ

josef scott · 1 December 2010, 10:09 PM

Hello Juno44,

That is an excellent photo. Thank you very much for posting it here.

I'm afraid I cannot shed much light on Muller or his unit, perhaps just a little more on the aircraft. As Old Man related, it is a Fokker E.I.

In late 1915, E.29/15 was used by Lt. Walter von Bülow-Bothkamp of FFA 22. There is a photo in Windsock Datafile 91 of him and this aircraft in its original markings. As seen in your photo, this E.I has a new fabric covering with later markings, probably in mid-1916. There are no visible signs of staining on the linen yet. This could be with a training unit.

juno44 · 7 December 2010, 03:33 PM

here are 3 more images from the album,
one showing Muller in flight school 1912 1913,
one showing Muller with a dog on an airplane,
and one showing 6 fokkers in a row
can anyone shed some light on these
cheers to all

josef scott · 7 December 2010, 04:09 PM

Hi juno44,

These are great images!

I take back what I said about this possibly being a training unit. It is obviously "in the field". As Jasta 2 was specifically built around Oswald Boelcke and not directly descended from any existing unit, there were no older aircraft to inherit. I don't believe they ever had any Eindeckers in their stable.

The line-up photo appears to have E.I 29/15 first, followed by Fokker EIII's or E.II's, it is difficult to tell. The photo with the dog is another Fokker E.I, but not 29/15.

I would be very interested in seeing higher-res versions of these photos.

juno44 · 7 December 2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by josef scott

Hi juno44,

These are great images!

I take back what I said about this possibly being a training unit. It is obviously "in the field". As Jasta 2 was specifically built around Oswald Boelcke and not directly descended from any existing unit, there were no older aircraft to inherit. I don't believe they ever had any Eindeckers in their stable.

The line-up photo appears to have E.I 29/15 first, followed by Fokker EIII's or E.II's, it is difficult to tell. The photo with the dog is another Fokker E.I, but not 29/15.

I would be very interested in seeing higher-res versions of these photos.

"I Have Oswald Boelcke photos in the album, send me your email address and I will send high res of the images at some point"

Soderbaum · 8 December 2010, 02:19 AM

Hi Juno

Fantastic with new photos like these...

A hint the find the possible unit is the reference to FFA 22, a unit which served in 3 Army. Also a/c was normally not shiped around different armies.
FFA 22 served within 3 Army from BOW until the unit was sent to Somme area on 1 Jul 16.

As I can see the photo of the 6 Fokkers are possible taken of the KEK AOK 3. This temporary unit was mostly called so, but it was also called Fokkerstaffel B a while in the spring of 1916...

If it is KEK AOK 3, then a possible a/d is Vouziers..

This unit later become the base to form Jasta 9.

just some thoughts

Gunnar