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1 November 2010, 06:27 PM
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Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge # 815
For your consideration
Dave Scoreboard at the end of #814 - Heinrich Model E 142.40 Varese2002 ¤¤ 109.70 Dave_Kent ¤¤ 90.20 Rbailey ¤ 39.40 richard B ¤ 33.30 Cruze ¤ 29.00 Aquilius ¤ 28.55 Lodzermensch ¤ 23.40 YavorD 22.35 Froggy 16.90 Flamingo 13.80 Rod Filan 11.00 Breguet 10.45 GregE 10.30 Patrick 09.70 Dan-San 09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger 09.50 matte_kudasai 08.40 JohnMacG 07.70 EdStevens 07.60 trp81 07.10 Colin A. Owers 07.25 Ermeio 06.70 Ampovandak 06.70 Berman 06.10 joegertler 06.00 Eric Goedkoop 05.90 Doc 05.70 AROTH 05.60 ercoupepilot 05.30 Crimso 05.30 Der Grüne Flieger 05.20 Maze 05.20 Gilles 05.10 bshatzer 05.00 Tom L 05.00 sobrien ..........................have to wait 12 hours 04.75 SCMc ........................may start immediately 04.70 dpolglaze 04.40 Ross Moorhouse 04.30 edmondthieffry 04.30 HoHun 04.20 Rufe 04.00 greenknight 04.00 John McKenzie 03.90 Brad 03.00 Catfish 03.00 Linhawk 02.50 Gregoire 02.50 Rexee 02.50 '14-'18aviationcollector 02.30 ckingh5 02.10 Crankcase 02.00 austin08 02.00 Rickenbaron 01.70 Kilian 01.60 airplane176 01.60 sergio_vitalio 01.50 Albatros_Ace 01.30 Cigogne 01.20 Ransom E. Olds 01.00 Old Man 01.00 Cliff 01.00 cubsfan4life 01.00 gregorydquist 01.00 Luf-Rick 01.00 Mike Westorp 01.00 paolomiana 01.00 Peter Zambori 01.00 rammjaeger 01.00 SL DIII 01.00 Tripehound 01.00 albatros1234 00.90 Stig Jarlevik 00.80 Machinbird 00.80 Mad Mac 00.80 tbstreet 00.80 toxisch 00.60 Sreiko 00.50 Martin Irvine 00.40 Vilkata 00.30 albapfalzd30 00.30 Miroslav Pokorny 00.30 Nieuport14 00.20 Paul_J._Fisher The 813 other challenges are here: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* -- Don't forget the rules: 1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #......" 2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread. 3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster. 4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference). 5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's -Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !). 6. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted. 7. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer. 8. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification. 9. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge. 10. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge. 11. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules is BREGUET |
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2 November 2010, 06:27 AM
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Bonjour ŕ tous
Upper wing planform ,the caracteristic cut out ,the semi-circle radiator were my clues for a RUMPLER C IV. But looking closer ,the lower wing planform is different , and struts link upper and lower ailerons:this plane has ailerons on both upper and lower wings . (The original Ru C IV had ailerons only on the upper wings ). So ,it's a licence Rumpler C IV modified and built by PFALZ ,named PFALZ C I Cheers Richard |
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2 November 2010, 06:27 AM
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The Rumpler C.VII of 1917, characteristic half-round radiator before the top wing, big inverted V connection of the top wing to the fuselage, heavy undercarriage with front strut wide before the lower wing. Streamlined, half built-in engine and propeller without a streamlined spinner. No rhinoceros horn keeping the engine exhaust above the top wing as with the C.VIII. The C.VII had an exhaust via the side.
Kees
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2 November 2010, 06:27 AM
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Hello,
Shape of the nose, shape of the upper wing with characteristic cut-out and two bay lay-out indicate Rumpler design. This is a school version of Rumpler C.IV (original designation Pfalz C.I) w/n 7501/16 built by Pfalz Flugzeugwereke - because of the square shape of lower wingtip and ailerons on both the upper and lower wings connected with rod visible behind the outer pair of inter-plane struts. Regards Marek |
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2 November 2010, 06:27 AM
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Rumpler C. IV version built by Pfalz and also known as Pfalz C. I. Radiator, engine installation, aileron strut are characteristic.
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2 November 2010, 07:35 AM
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Hi All:
It got busy here for a few seconds!! Richard is first in with the correct and complete answer, the Rumpler C. IV built by Pfalz and known as the Pfalz C. I. Dave Scoreboard at the end of #815 - Pfalz C. I 142.40 Varese2002 ¤¤ 109.70 Dave_Kent ¤¤ 90.20 Rbailey ¤ 40.40 richard B ¤ 33.30 Cruze ¤ 29.00 Aquilius ¤ 28.55 Lodzermensch ¤ 23.40 YavorD 22.35 Froggy 16.90 Flamingo 13.80 Rod Filan 11.00 Breguet 10.45 GregE 10.30 Patrick 09.70 Dan-San 09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger 09.50 matte_kudasai 08.40 JohnMacG 07.70 EdStevens 07.60 trp81 07.10 Colin A. Owers 07.25 Ermeio 06.70 Ampovandak 06.70 Berman 06.10 joegertler 06.00 Eric Goedkoop 05.90 Doc 05.70 AROTH 05.60 ercoupepilot 05.30 Crimso 05.30 Der Grüne Flieger 05.20 Maze 05.20 Gilles 05.10 bshatzer 05.00 Tom L 05.00 sobrien ..........................have to wait 12 hours 04.75 SCMc ........................may start immediately 04.70 dpolglaze 04.40 Ross Moorhouse 04.30 edmondthieffry 04.30 HoHun 04.20 Rufe 04.00 greenknight 04.00 John McKenzie 03.90 Brad 03.00 Catfish 03.00 Linhawk 02.50 Gregoire 02.50 Rexee 02.50 '14-'18aviationcollector 02.30 ckingh5 02.10 Crankcase 02.00 austin08 02.00 Rickenbaron 01.70 Kilian 01.60 airplane176 01.60 sergio_vitalio 01.50 Albatros_Ace 01.30 Cigogne 01.20 Ransom E. Olds 01.00 Old Man 01.00 Cliff 01.00 cubsfan4life 01.00 gregorydquist 01.00 Luf-Rick 01.00 Mike Westorp 01.00 paolomiana 01.00 Peter Zambori 01.00 rammjaeger 01.00 SL DIII 01.00 Tripehound 01.00 albatros1234 00.90 Stig Jarlevik 00.80 Machinbird 00.80 Mad Mac 00.80 tbstreet 00.80 toxisch 00.60 Sreiko 00.50 Martin Irvine 00.40 Vilkata 00.30 albapfalzd30 00.30 Miroslav Pokorny 00.30 Nieuport14 00.20 Paul_J._Fisher |
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