Pronunciation Query?

[Barry Hickson]

G'day All!
Just a question for perhaps our German Members.
What is the correct Pronunciation of Jasta?
Is the J pronounced Hard or soft like a "Y"

I am sure its not "H" as in the Spanish "J"

Just would like to say it as it should be said!

[FOKKERJ]

G'Day Barry,

I'm no expert here on things like Deutsche pronounciations, but my guess is the "Y" sound is as in Yay!

I would ask the Mexican-American that I worked with over thirty years ago, if I could. His name was Jesus (pronounced Haysoos) and he called me Jay-Jay (pronounced Yay-Yay!). Maybe he had some Aleman in his background.

Cheers, Jay

P.S. When nobody is listening, I just pronounce it "Jasta".

[Syd Solo]

I'm with you Barry - I like to try and pronounce German and French names as much as possible (for a typically Australian accented bloke) as the native speakers would. I did school boy French so can handle those words pretty well, I think, but my German is purely guess word. For example, is Wolff pronounced Volf (as in golf) or Voolf. Is Schafer pronounced Shai-fer or Schar (as in scar)-fer? How does an umlaut (the two little dotts on top of a letter) modify the pronunciation?

Re Jasta - have always thought it to be pronounced Yahsta (rhymes with faster, plaster and blaster) if your English, Australian or New Zealander.

A list of phonetic spellings of German and French commonly used words, titles and names would be useful for us English speakers.

For instance, I would pronounce Jagdgeschwader as Yugd-gesh-varder. But that's probably incorrect. I'd like to know how it should be pronounced.

Also, on the subject of names how is the South African ace Beauchamp-Proctor pronounced? Is it Bow (as in a ribbon and bow in her hair)-Shomp? Or is it Beach-hamp? Or Beesham? Or Boshom?

Please excuse my ignorance on this interesting subject.

Regards

Syd

[Froggy]

Bonjour

I think that the "j" is pronounced "Y" in deutsche


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Bruno

[Flamingo]

I know that Jasta is pronounced like yasta and both "a" are pronounced like in "spa".

Syd, your rhymes with faster, plaster and blaster is pretty close if you try to ignore the final "r".

Wolff is volf and Schafer would be Schar (as in scar)-fer but the German pilot's name is Schäfer and that is Shai-fer!

The German "a" is like hut or spa and the "ä" is like the English bad.

"au" is cow

"äu" is toy

"e" is like felt or day

"eu" is toy

"i" is fit or feel

"ei" is fine, Mike!!

"ie" is feel!! Last two just the other way like in English. And it is Kriegsmarine and not Kreigsmarine, kreegs... not krygs...

"o" is top or goal but minimise the a

"oo" is long o like boat but again minimise the a

"ö" nearest would be sir, fur

"u" is put or rude

"ü" is similar to ... nothing, it is the French sur but sir and fur will be close enough.

Yugd-gesh-varder is pretty good! Well, if the first vowel is like spa!

Konsonants are less of a problem, "w" is v, "z" is ts like in hats but the German "ch"... it is like the Spanish "j". Just imagine someone is being strangled or snoring...

Save the link Bruno has given, it works pretty well!

[Ransom E. Olds]

In German the letter a with an umlaut above is not pronounced as in the English word "bad" but rather like the a in the English word "baker." Ransom

[crankcase]

Hey, you guys are pretty good with the pronunciation key!

On the U with umlaut, I found an example:

If you check out you-tube with Peter Sellers in "Do you have a room?", I think his pronunciation of "room" fits the bill quite nicely! Enjoy!
marc

[Red Sparrow]

Yasta La Vista Baby!!!

[Syd Solo]

Flamingo and others

You went to a lot of trouble to help me out. Thank you so very much. I now feel more confident about what I read and say with a German accent!

Bruno, I'll check out that link later this weekend.

Thanks again everyone.

Auf weidersehn and au revoir. Or as Australians have been known to say "Oo-roo".

Syd

[Barry Hickson]

Originally Posted by Flamingo

I know that Jasta is pronounced like yasta and both "a" are pronounced like in "spa".

Syd, your rhymes with faster, plaster and blaster is pretty close if you try to ignore the final "r".

Wolff is volf and Schafer would be Schar (as in scar)-fer but the German pilot's name is Schäfer and that is Shai-fer!

The German "a" is like hut or spa and the "ä" is like the English bad.

"au" is cow

"äu" is toy

"e" is like felt or day

"eu" is toy

"i" is fit or feel

"ei" is fine, Mike!!

"ie" is feel!! Last two just the other way like in English. And it is Kriegsmarine and not Kreigsmarine, kreegs... not krygs...

"o" is top or goal but minimise the a

"oo" is long o like boat but again minimise the a

"ö" nearest would be sir, fur

"u" is put or rude

"ü" is similar to ... nothing, it is the French sur but sir and fur will be close enough.

Yugd-gesh-varder is pretty good! Well, if the first vowel is like spa!

Konsonants are less of a problem, "w" is v, "z" is ts like in hats but the German "ch"... it is like the Spanish "j". Just imagine someone is being strangled or snoring...

Save the link Bruno has given, it works pretty well!

Fantastic! Thank you very much!