Breguet’s Aircraft ID Challenge No 718

[Lodzermensch]

Welcome to BAIDC No 718

The Score at the end of Challenge No. 717 ; RUMPLER 7D7 (D I prototype)

129.90 Varese2002 ¤¤
93.00 Dave_Kent ¤
81.20 Rbailey ¤
33.30 Cruze ¤
29.70 richard B ¤
24.70 Aquilius
23.30 Lodzermensch
21.20 YavorD
20.35 Froggy
15.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
10.45 GregE
09.50 matte_kudasai
09.00 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.70 Berman
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 AROTH
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Maze
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
04.00 sobrien
03.90 Brad
03.00 SCMc
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.25 Ermeio Congratulations
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

Previous Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

Rules

The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !).
If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Marek

[Varese2002]

This is the Friedrichshafen FF 41at torpedo bomber, which was the production development of the FF 41a. The single FF 41a had a three-piece rudder, while the FF 41at had a much bigger single rudder.

Identification landmarks are the two tractor engines (Benz Bz.III), the two-style biplane wings, the very big floats protuding before the nose of the machine and the blunt nose of the fuselage (holding an observer / gunner).

Cheers

Kees

[richard B]

Bonjour à tous .

It's a FRIEDRICHSHAFEN FF 41 torpedo bomber (1916)

Clues are the two engines with neat covering between the wings ,tractor propeller ,angular nose.

The first , FF 41a Marine number 678 was compound tailed ,the eight other ,FF 41at #996 to 1000 and #1208 to 1210 were single tailed .

The FF 41 pictured here could be the FF 41at M.Nr 1000 ,but I am not sure ...

[Lodzermensch]

Hello,

Both answers are correct. Unfortunately, I do not have sources with detailed description of Friedrichshafen float planes. That is why I know nothing about "at" designation but FF 41A is acceptable answer. I assume that there are some other sources, more detailed than mine.

The picture was published in a book Germany’s First Air Force 1914-1918 by Peter Kilduff.

- 1.0 and next challenge go to Varese2002,
- an additional 0.2 goes to Richard for correct Marinenummer

The Score at the end of Challenge No. 718 Friedrichshafen FF 41at:

130.90 Varese2002 ¤¤
93.00 Dave_Kent ¤
81.20 Rbailey ¤
33.30 Cruze ¤
29.90 richard B ¤
24.70 Aquilius
23.30 Lodzermensch
21.20 YavorD
20.35 Froggy
15.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
10.45 GregE
09.50 matte_kudasai
09.00 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.70 Berman
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 AROTH
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Maze
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
04.00 sobrien
03.90 Brad
03.00 SCMc
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.25 Ermeio Congratulations
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

Thank you for participation

Regards

Marek