Albatros Antoinette in Poland

Gabriel Voisin · 17 March 2010, 07:20 AM

Hello,
could be one of our Polish friends here in the forum help me purchase of Antoinette drawings from the museum in Krakow?
I've seen that in this museum a Antoinette Fuselage was present.
I believe that it is an Albatros Antoinette 1910.
Or is there someone who has the Albatros Antoinette drawings complete, I have about 75% of the drawings, the rest is missing me.

Many Thanks
Gabriel Voisin

Lodzermensch · 18 March 2010, 02:27 AM

Hello Gabriel Voisin,

I guess you are referring to original drawings of Lavavasseur Antoinette built at Albatros Werke. Polish Aviation Museum Cracow has a fuselage of this airplane in its storage. I am not sure if they have any documentation. I will try to ask them a question and let you know if and what answer will come.

Regards

Marek

Varese2002 · 18 March 2010, 02:52 AM

Probably Gabriel Voisin (nice historic name) refers to the drawings published in the german scientific magazine Zeitschrift für Luftfahrt und Motorluftschiffahrt in 1910 and 1911.

Cheers

Kees

Gabriel Voisin · 18 March 2010, 09:13 AM

Hello Marek,
Thank you that you are very helpful. I am glad that there are such wonderful people.
Add to your answer.
Yes, I have this trunk also seen that is 100% of the original albatross Antoinette fuselage. I have heard of this Antoinette approximately 70 -75% of the plans, but unfortunately not complete.
I lack some components, such as the landing gear and the rudder.

Thank you for your help, it is really difficult to get something from this museum. If anything I can do for you, say it.

At Kees

Yes, I know that and I did that too, I have very many plans also vonanderen machines, such as the Farman. But missing from the drawings of these assemblies 1910/11 exactly as I have described.

Thanks,.....greetings

Gabriel Voisin

Varese2002 · 18 March 2010, 01:18 PM

Hello Gabriel, if you are interested to complete your drawing of the Albatros Antoinette send a P.M. (Private Message) to me.

Cheers

Kees

Gabriel Voisin · 18 March 2010, 03:05 PM

Thanks Kees,
I've sent you an email.

Greetings

Eenmaal in het Nederlands

Bedankt Kees,
Ik heb u een e-mail gestuurd.

Gegroet

Correct?...

Varese2002 · 18 March 2010, 10:48 PM

Gabriel, je Nederlands is klasse

Cheers

Kees

greenknight · 20 March 2010, 10:35 AM

GabrielVoisin,

I hope you have found what you need via your correspondence with Kees. I had seen your post earlier this week, and remembered we have some German Antoinette drawings in the WWI Aero archives. Tom Polapink is at the archives this weekend and checked on the drawings and has passed on the following about what WWI Aero has in case anyone else is interested in copies.

"The drawings we have for the Antoinette are the Gabriel drawings which say "Albatros Werke, Berlin, Johannistahl" in the title block. We have 7 sheets that are 24" x 20" and include drawing numbers:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 204, 205, 206, 209, 210, 226, 228,243

They originally appeared in Zeeitschrift fur Flugtechnik und Motorluftschiffarht."

A copy of this drawing set would run about $30 US, plus whatever postage is required to mail them to your location as rolled or folded drawings as you may prefer. See World War 1 Aeroplanes, Inc.-Home of WW1 AERO & SKYWAYS for contact information.

Gabriel Voisin · 20 March 2010, 11:48 AM

Hello Sean,

Many thanks for the help.
No, Kees could not help me too, the problem is that the Gabriel-drawings are not completely.
Can you look in your drawings, whether the landing gear, the elevator, the rudder and the handwheels are here?
Exactly these components are missing in my drawings.

Sean, have your blueprints from the August Euler aircraft from 1912/13?
I am still looking for blueprint copies of the August Euler "yellow dog No.33.

Thanks

greenknight · 20 March 2010, 04:47 PM

GabrielVoisin,

Tom looked up the drawings in our archives, and it appears that copies of the Gabriel drawings do not have the information that you need. Tom replied that you "must have the same set we have...we have no LG or tail drawings either".

He also replied that do not have any listings for the Euler "Gelber Hund". Do you have reason to believe that drawings exist for this aeroplane?

Sorry we couldn't be of assistance to you. I wish you the best of luck in finding what you're after.