Breguet'sAircraft ID Challenge #693

[Rbailey]

Identification of this little monoplane may take some digging, although perhaps someone will have seen it in a previous search


The scoreboard at the end of Challenge #692; Aeromarine Model 40-F (US Navy A-5066) converted to model 41.

124.40 Varese2002
91.00 Dave_Kent
77.10 Rbailey
33.30 Cruze
28.70 richard B
23.70 Aquilius
21.20 YavorD
20.35 Froggy
18.80 Lodzermensch
15.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
09.50 matte_kudasai
09.00 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.70 Berman
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 AROTH
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Maze
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
04.00 sobrien
03.90 Brad
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
02.00 SCMc
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

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[Dave_Kent]

Just a reply to put it back on page 1.

I will guess that someone has checked all/most 'normal' nations and that we are therefore hunting for a true "Bailey-Bird".

[Rbailey]

This machine flew in 1915. It also crashed then, killing its pilot.

[Rbailey]

To add to the information, the builder of this machine had two "products". The first, in 1913-14, was described as a copy of a Bleriot, but I h ave not seen a picture of it. This is the second. Dave is right;this is not from one of the majors nations, but there have been others of this nationality in the challenge.

[Dave_Kent]

RICARDO JOÃO KIRK was a Brazilian military pilot killed while flying a monoplane against rebels in Feb. 1915.

Perhaps it was a machine of his own design?

A wild guess, but at least a guess.

[Rbailey]

Good try but not quite right. I believe Kirk was flying a Morane. Besides.the challenge machine is not Brazillian.

[Rbailey]

This machine sometimes goes under a two word designation - the maker's name, and a name he gave it, perhaps to distinguish it from his first attempt. The second term has a geographical connotation.

[albatros1234]

wild guess a bloudek bohemia

[Rbailey]

Too wild - or maybe not wild enough. At any rate, wrong geography.

[albatros1234]

I just guessed I have never seen one but it is a designers name and a place.my first thought was that it looked sort of like an etrich taube in the cowl region, but as far as I know igo etrich didnt make anything after the taube so I shot out a wild guess he is however from austria. like bloutek.can you give a hint of the nationality?