Why no roundels on Brown's camel?

erikr · 11 January 2010, 02:14 PM

Hello everybody,

Is there any thoughts on why there were no roundels on the fuselage of Brown's Camel (B7270) at one time?

Thanks,
Erik

bristol scout · 11 January 2010, 02:53 PM

Hi Erik,

Many Naval squadrons went through phases of removing fuselage roundels---Naval 1 ----9 and 13 come to mind and Triplanes as well as Camels.

Many colourful fuselage markings were involved---but sometimes only squadron white bars--or numbers.

It was not done (I don't say ever) on RFC examples

Dave.

rexee · 11 January 2010, 04:35 PM

I,ve also seen Brown's Camel B7270 depicted with a red "V" marking on the top wing, however I have seen no actual photographic evidence of this

Brez · 12 January 2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rexee

I,ve also seen Brown's Camel B7270 depicted with a red "V" marking on the top wing, however I have seen no actual photographic evidence of this

Hi Rexee,
There is a photograph of Roy Brown (in flying gear) standing next to what is presumed to be B'7270 (the serial is overpainted) clearly showing the top wing chevron. Page 188 of Les Rogers' British Aviation Squadron Markings of World War 1.
In the same book it states the reason 209 Camels show the fuselage cockades and seial numbers both visible and/or overpainted is that during the time these aircraft were photographed they were all being repainted.
Cheers,
Tony.

rexee · 12 January 2010, 07:09 AM

Thanks Tony, I found the photo.
BTW a new biography about Roy Brown by Alan Bennett is due to be released in March

Cheers
Rexee

Brez · 12 January 2010, 08:26 AM

The old 1/72nd Revell kit had red stripes on the turtledeck as well as fuselage roundels. I don't know if this scheme was fictional, I've never seen it in photos, or whether it was done for a publicity shot after the von Richthofen fight/flight.
Tony.

erikr · 12 January 2010, 07:13 PM

So it seems that it must be a sign of a repaint. I didn't think that happened too much in WWI. In one photo I have seen where Brown is standing in front of a Camel, the paint seems very shiny especially on the tailplanes. PC10 dulled quickly so it makes sense.

Thanks everybody,
Erik

R Gannon · 13 January 2010, 04:35 PM

Off the cuff - the old Revell kit looks to be based on the cover painting of MvR's last combat on the cover the old (and I would say immortal) Harlyford's 'von Richthofen and the Flying Circus'.

Must admit, I've only ever seen the above noted photo.

Think I still have a couple of unmaid Revell / Brown 1/72 Camel kits.

Cheers Russ