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Old 20 December 2009, 08:20 AM   #1
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Breguet aircraft ID challenge #680

Bonjour ŕ tous

This will be an easy one too

Good luck

Richard






The Scoreboard after challenge #679 - Royal Aircraft Factory F.E. 8

121.40 Varese2002
88.00 Dave_Kent
74.80 Rbailey
33.30 Cruze
28.70 richard B
22.70 Aquilius
20.20 YavorD
19.65 Froggy
18.80 Lodzermensch
15.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
09.50 matte_kudasai
09.00 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.70 Berman
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 AROTH
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Maze
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.90 Brad
03.00 sobrien
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SCMc
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

Previous challenges are to find : Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

And don't forget the RULES

The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !).
If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.
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Old 20 December 2009, 08:20 PM   #2
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Based on the distinctive mounting of the fuselage on the top wing, the low position of the lower wing, with the engines, this is the Gotha-Ursinus U.W.D.
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Old 20 December 2009, 08:20 PM   #3
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Allegedly easy, except for that upside down tail section - did someone hit that with Photoshop?

I say it is the GOTHA URSINUS U.W.D. G.I, seaplane version of the Gotha Ursinus G.U.H. G.1.

-Engines mounted on the lower wing in very close proximity to each other

-Fuselage attached to the top wing

-Floats

This may be No.120, the only example built of the seaplane version - except my pictures show No.120 with the tail section mounted to the fuselage in the traditional upright position.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.....
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Old 20 December 2009, 09:56 PM   #4
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Hello,

To be more precise:

This is Gotha UWD (Ursinus Wasser Doppeldecker) Marinenummer 120 because of raised fuselage lay-out and engines fixed to lower wings. I think that the picture shows the plane in its initial form – it is shortly after the aircraft was built in December 1915. Tail section is characteristic feature of this form – double rudder looks like mounted upside down. Besides, this floatplane had highly varnished finish of the fuselage. Only one example was built. It was written off on 2nd October 1916.

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Old 20 December 2009, 10:51 PM   #5
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Bonjour

Thank you for participating .

You are right ,It's the Gotha U.W.D ( WD-4 ) with it's original tail .


The Scoreboard after challenge #680 :
GOTHA UWD (WD 4) MNr 120

121.40 Varese2002
89.00 Dave_Kent
74.80 Rbailey
33.30 Cruze
28.70 richard B
22.70 Aquilius
20.20 YavorD
19.65 Froggy
18.80 Lodzermensch
15.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
09.50 matte_kudasai
09.00 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.70 Berman
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 AROTH
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Maze
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.90 Brad
03.00 sobrien
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SCMc
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher


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Richard
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