Eduard 1/48 Weekend Fok. E.V "OsterKamp's"

[StephenLawson]

Here is a bit of fun in the form of Eduard's most recent pressing. The re-issue of their fine 1/48 mold. Kit # 8480 is out. and as a weekender it has a large potential for some enjoyable building. It is supposed to represent the Fokker E.V flown by Theo Osterkamp, Marine Feld Jagdstaffel II, Belgium, 1918. But does it? More later.

[SteveS]

Thanks Stephen,

It will be curious to see what you come up with. I built this scheme years ago when it offered in the old Flashback series but don't remember ever seeing a photo of this ship.

Salute,
Steve

[StephenLawson]

Then lets begin with a recent thread over in "Camouflage and Markings here at the venerable "Drome".

Osterkamp E.V color

Dan San Abbott says, ". . .It is my opinion that the cowl was in Fokker dark olive green. The tailplane is yellow? The wing is not streaked like the other Fok.E.V machines, but is done in irregular polygons simulating the printed fabric in green, brown, blue and violet. This is an opinion based on what is visible on the leading edge of the wing. This is the only one that I have found with this odd finish. I have consulted others and they are of the same opinion. . . "

Then here again.
Osterkamp E.V 156/18

Then there is Jagdgeschwader Nr.II by Greg VanWyngarden, Osprey pub. Aviation Elite series #19, p.85, 2005.This reference shows Fokker E.V wings in vertical positions (stacked on their leading edges.) It would seem there is , wait, maybe aaah yes...the wings are streaked. Image below from Langdon Badger.


Then in the modeling title we have,
Osterkamp Fokker D.VII

And a detailed synopsis here.
Sachsenberg & Osterkamp Fokkers

[StephenLawson]

Originally quoted from "Drome member" Volker Nemsch.

". . ."As for the markings:

"While it is clear. . . for Osterkamps markings seems to come from a much later replica E V flown in England in the eighties. It is however possible that the aircraft was remarked - definitely probable. If Osterkamp REALLY was shot down in that aircraft on September 28,(1918) Six weeks after the delivery. However, if shot down during a familiarization flight, September 28 seems rather late. . ."

"But it seems clear to me that Osterkamp at least flew a D VII with the markings described for the E.V. . ."

"Osterkamp with vertical stripes (only evidenced by his own description). . ."

"Osterkamp's earlier planes such as the Albatros DV had two black lines running around the fuselage. It made it have some resemblance with a bee. There exists a photo of another Albatros D.III which has such black stripes all over the fuselage. The other colour is uncertain. Was this Uncle Theo's plane ? Did he keep only 2 lines on his Alb.D.V and changed with later planes back to an old pattern ? Or do we mix up two pilots in this case?. . ."

Dan San Abbott weighed in with,

"I had read that Ltn.z.S.Theo Osterkamp did not like the Fok.E.V and only flew it a few times. see "FOKKER D.VIII" by P.M. Grosz, WINDSOCK DATAFILE 25, foot note (2), page 5."

[GAJouette]

Stephen,
Excellent choice of project my friend. Osterkamp's E.V is one project I kicked around for years wanting to do before I left WWI modeling behind.Back then I had difficulties tracking down information on the actual paint scheme used on Heir Osterkamp's E.V.I'm most interested in seeing what you come up with.After reading the threads you provided I find Dan-San's most appealing.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

[Doug Baumann]

Originally Posted by GAJouette

Stephen,
Excellent choice of project my friend. Osterkamp's E.V is one project I kicked around for years wanting to do before I left WWI modeling behind.Back then I had difficulties tracking down information on the actual paint scheme used on Heir Osterkamp's E.V.I'm most interested in seeing what you come up with.After reading the threads you provided I find Dan-San's most appealing.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

i agree with Greg i can't wate to see what you come up with Steve in your own words MODEL ON !!! Doug

[Bookmaker]

Interesting discussion about Uncle Theo's E.V. As you probably know from my 1/4 scale build ( and very short flight), I am a fan of the E.V.

I am looking forward to your final decision on which way to go with the colors.

Dale

[StephenLawson]

"In separating truth from fiction we try to see the origin of a subject and and recognize it for what it is." Dr. James J. Parks 1990. Dr. Parks was one of my mentors in the area of historical research. He was the founder of the The Lafayette Foundation and his works continue today.

I set about to research this scheme many years ago and its by Merlin's genious and generoisity that he sent it to me. The nearest thing to the truth here is a Fokker D.VII that was probably Osterkamp's had this yellow and black scheme. Now in the end since we know he flew the E.V 156/18 or 157/18 or at least was photographed with it he may have been assigned this machine at one point. The he was brought down in it on a familiarization flight and from his "memory " it was black and yellow. There are NO images of this machine in this livery in the public domain.

There was a full scale replica with a radial that was flown in England during the 1980's in this livery. More later.

[Sreiko]

Stephen- this composition of the history and modeling in this topic is is great!!! Another top rated subject, worth to be bookmarked!

Cheers

[Doug Baumann]

well Steve this is the mading part of modeling ,,, trying to find out the colors of and aircraft ! Doug