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Old 29 July 2009, 11:32 PM   #1
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Neckel background DVIIs

Can anyone comment on the identity of these two DVIIs in the background of a Greg VanWyngarden photo of Neckel's OAW DVII?
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Old 3 August 2009, 05:07 PM   #2
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Two interesting Fok.D.VII machines.

Hi Shredward:
1. Jasta 6 locations from 1 September 1918,when Ltn. Ulrich Neckel took over command of Jasta 6.
2. On 1 September 1918, Jasta 6 was based at Busigny North Air Field, along with Jasta 4 at Busigny-Escaufort, Jasta 10 at Escaufort and Jasta 11 at Busigny in the German 2.Armee.
3. Along with Jage Nr.1, "Richthofen" was Gruja Nr.2, with Jasta 5 at Villers-sur-Nicole,
Jasta 34b at Seranvillers to 4 Sept'18, to Bévillers, to 30 Sept.'18, to Escarmain to 7 Oct.'18, to Givry to 25 Oct.'18, to Gosselies to the EOW, Jasta 37 was located the same as.
All these locations were in the German 2.Armee.
4. Jage Nr.1,"Richthofen" was transferred to the German Armee Abteilung "C" on 28 Sept.'18, and was located at Metz-Frescaty Airfield to
8 Oct.'18 to Marville to 6 Nov.'18 Tellancourt to the end of the war.
So far we have no match ups except with in Jage Nr.1"Ricthofen".
5. Stationed in Armee Abt."C" along with Jage.Nr.1 "Richthofen" was Gruja "Simpelkamp", with Jasta 64w and Jasta 65.
6. Jasta 64w was stationed at Mars-la-Tour, to 14 Sept.'18, to Giramont to 9 Oct.'18 to Tichémont to EOW.
7. Jasta 65 was located at Marville from 16 Sept.'18 to 7 Oct.'19, La Ferté to 20 Oct.'18, Tichémont to EOW.
Now we have a match-up, Jasta 65 was based at Marville and left on 7 Oct.'18. Jasta 6 arrived on 9 Oct.'18. I suspect these two machine may have been unflyable and left to pick up later.
Jasta 65 markings were brown tailplanes and noses, these two appear to be so marked, The tails are darkly painted, because of the shadow, the noses are difficult to see. Also each plane carried the pilot's personal marking painted on the fuselage sides. The D.VII on the right has added white markings on the upper wing and a white border of the tailplane.
My take is these machines belong to Jasta 65.
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Thanks Dan,
We'll be adding Jasta 65 to the OoB, so there will be brown tailed Fokkers Over Flanders Fields.
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