Anyone Know these Fokkers???

[Galloway]

Hello All,

These are some photos that I acquired some 25 years or so ago from Heinz J. Nowarra.
I just stumbled across these again & was very curious as to units, markings, etc.
Some are familiar & some not so......They are all 5 x 7 prints with penciled units & type on the reverse... (Which in most cases is very doubtful)
Also stamped: Reproduction forbidden without permission by Heinz J. Nowarra Berlin-Ltd., Weddigenweg 69.

So if I am breaking any laws or stepping on anyones toes by posting these, I just thought I would share......So without any objections......

I will post a few at a time to see if anyone knows what exactly we are looking at????

Ken in Arizona

These first two are both marked in pencil on the reverse NAVAL D.VII


This one seems to be post war looking at it's surroundings?

[Galloway]

Here are the next two...


This one is marked in pencil on the reverse: D.VII (Alb.) BMW 185????



This one is marked: 185 BMW


I know not who penciled in these notes???? But many are WAY OFF!

Ken

[Gregvan]

Hi Ken,

Very nice prints!! Dear old Heini Nowara passed away some years ago, so you needn't worry about stepping on any toes.

The first print is indeed thought to be a naval Fokker D.VII, most likely from Marine Feld Jagdstaffel 1. I have a photo from Imrie via UTD that shows six naval pilots in front of a very similarly-marked Fokker-built D.VII, and two of them were from MFJ I. The interesting thing about your photo is what appears to be bomb shackles visible beneath the fuselage; quite rare on a D.VII.

I can't comment on whether the second photo really shows a MFJ Fokker D.VII or not; nice shot though!

Your third photo shows the Albatros-built Fokker D.VII (Alb) 527/18, or so it is usually labeled; note the tailskid seems to be missing. The last photo shows a Fokker-built D.VII with the fuselage cross in something of an unusual position. Does it have any guns mounted? Doesn't seem to.

I'm sure Dan-San will weigh in with lots more.

Greg

[YavorD]

If "1436" is genuine Fokker photo tag, the picture should be dated between late summer and early autumn of 1918 ["1432" shows V 33, "1456" shows V 34].
Regards,
Yavor

[Galloway]

Originally Posted by Gregvan

Hi Ken,

Very nice prints!! Dear old Heini Nowara passed away some years ago, so you needn't worry about stepping on any toes.

The first print is indeed thought to be a naval Fokker D.VII, most likely from Marine Feld Jagdstaffel 1. I have a photo from Imrie via UTD that shows six naval pilots in front of a very similarly-marked Fokker-built D.VII, and two of them were from MFJ I. The interesting thing about your photo is what appears to be bomb shackles visible beneath the fuselage; quite rare on a D.VII.

I can't comment on whether the second photo really shows a MFJ Fokker D.VII or not; nice shot though!

Your third photo shows the Albatros-built Fokker D.VII (Alb) 527/18, or so it is usually labeled. The last photo shows a Fokker-built D.VII with the fuselage cross in something of an unusual position. Does it have any guns mounted? Doesn't seem to.

I'm sure Dan-San will weigh in with lots more.

Greg

Greg,

Thanks for the information....I did not notice the bomb shackles, but there they are right in front of my face.....I guess I was to busy looking at the mechanic tinkering with the guns???? The last Fokker photo indeed is one without guns I think??? unless they are mounted unusually low for some reason??...Here is one more...(I have a bunch more but need to scan them first)

Thanks Again!

Ken

This one is marked in pencil: Naval D.VII 160 Mercedes
Pretty nice shot of the airscrew & manufactures logos.....wait till we get to the Jasta marked photos....

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Hello Ken:
The first photo a Fok.D.VII in 1 Marine Feld Jasta.
The second is a late OAW production Fok.D.VII. what is of interest, is all the aicraft in the photo, a DFW C.V, 2 Alb.C.XV machines and the OAW Fok.D.VII have white noses, dark fuselages and fins. The last photo of a Fok.D.VII is marked identical to the first D.VII, so they are both in the same unit. This is curious, because I cannot think of any unit that had fighters and recce aircraft together.
The third photo was taken at Johannisthal near Berlin and it is the first Fok.D.VII(Alb)527/18 built by the Albatros Werke. This was probably taken about April 1918.
The fourth photo is of Fok.D.VII built by Fokker with a wood fuselage.
Blue skies Ken,
Dan-San

[Galloway]

Originally Posted by Dan_San_Abbott

Hello Ken:
The first photo a Fok.D.VII in 1 Marine Feld Jasta.
The second is a late OAW production Fok.D.VII. what is of interest, is all the aicraft in the photo, a DFW C.V, 2 Alb.C.XV machines and the OAW Fok.D.VII have white noses, dark fuselages and fins. The last photo of a Fok.D.VII is marked identical to the first D.VII, so they are both in the same unit. This is curious, because I cannot think of any unit that had fighters and recce aircraft together.
The third photo was taken at Johannisthal near Berlin and it is the first Fok.D.VII(Alb)527/18 built by the Albatros Werke. This was probably taken about April 1918.
The fourth photo is of Fok.D.VII built by Fokker with a wood fuselage.
Blue skies Ken,
Dan-San

Thanks Dan-San

[Galloway]

next up is marked in pencil on the reverse: 185 BMW JASTA 17.....it is unarmed, so my guess post war????


The next one has been over painted (Maybe a Czech machine)? The reverse is marked again in pencil: D.VII 160 Mercedes


Ken

[Gregvan]

Hi Ken,

Fokker D.VII 507/18 (in your first post) was simply an ex-works factory machine that was the subject of several good (factory??) photos that have been widely distributed. I imagine the guns simply weren't fitted yet. To my limited knowledge, there is no evidence that shows it was ever in Jasta 17. By the way, D.VII 507/18 was Works Number 2594 and had a Mercedes D.IIIa, Nr. 37589.

Your second photo is a mystery to me.

Greg

[Galloway]

Thanks Greg,

And now for the next three....I believe they are pretty well known shots??? But here they are anyway!

This one is unmarked......& unarmed.....


This one is printed in reverse & is pretty well known, marked in pencil on the reverse: Mercedes JASTA 17 Jasta 17????


Last one is pretty well known also....?