Breguet's Crash File Challenge Nr.381

[FOKKERJ]

Welcome to the BCFC Nr.381

Here's one for my North and South American Relations!

I hope that this is an easy one for the Fledglings!

For your entertainment and educational happiness I submit the following for your approval:



Come on BLUE TEAM!

For one full point I will need the exact identification of this Wreck.
If you recognise the fotograf, please feel free to tell us the Pilot's names, aircraft, Jasta/Squadron, and date. Also where you found that information.
The prize may or may not grow accordingly.

The scoreboard after #380:

45.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ Ace of Aces ¤
35.55 Froggy ¤
32.70 Flamingo ¤
30.10 Rbailey ¤
23.40 Breguet
21.40 Richard B
18.15 YavorD
12.75 Aquilius
12.00 Varese2002
09.25 AROTH
08.10 Rod_Filan
08.00 ONEALM
07.90 Gregvan
07.50 matte_kudasai
06.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Expositor
05.50 Gilles
05.00 Dan_San
05.00 Kilian ................................Have to wait three hours!
04.00 Edmond .............................May start immediately!
04.00 Eric
04.00 Laserlloyd
04.00 Patrick
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.20 Crankcase
03.00 Crimso
02.70 Tbstreet
02.60 Catfish
02.00 Albatros_Ace
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 gregorydquist
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Ampovandak
01.00 Berman
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Troy Raines
01.00 Lodzermensch
00.50 Miroslav Pokorny
00.10 SCMc


Previous Breguet's Crash Files


THE RULES
1. All aircraft are of the 14-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period).
2. All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner!
Offenders will be dealt with severely!
3. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
4. And whom ever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host!
5. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
6. The final arbitrator of all things to do with the "rules" is Breguet

GOOD HUNTING, FOKKERJ

[Laserlloyd]

OK since I've been Red flaged here goes my guess. I get a little fuzzy on these Bi-Planes

I'll take a stab at an S.E.5.
The rudder out line looks close and the struts look to be in the same location.

Lloyd...

[FOKKERJ]

Originally Posted by Laserlloyd

OK since I've been Red flaged here goes my guess. I get a little fuzzy on these Bi-Planes

I'll take a stab at an S.E.5.
The rudder out line looks close and the struts look to be in the same location.

Lloyd...

I Red Flaggedyou because you were the first one to be caught loitering on these premises!

Hmmm, Lets see.... S.E.5/S.E.5a?

The rudder is definetly a match!

Here's what I could find:

Quote"Gefreiter Wilhelm Hasenbein. Born in Lilienthal in 1896. Entered service 7/15 at FEA 4 Posen for 3 months, sent to FA 63 forming at Armeeflugpark 11 in Warsaw 9/15/15. Sent to Armeeflugpark Bug on 10/19/15. On 3/27/16 sent to Bay. Armeeflugpark von Stranns. Sent to Flieger Abteilung 8 on 4/4/16 participating in: 9/8/16 - Battle between Maas and Mosel rivers, 11/20/16 - Battle of the Somme, 3/16-28/17 - Position battles on the Somme, 5/17 - Battle of Arras. On 5/18/17 transferred to fighter school at FEA 7 Braunschweig and completes training in Albatros DV and DVa aircraft 12/29/17. On 1/15/18 transferred to JASTA 52 commanded by Paul Billick.

Hasenbein recalled having three victories but could only recount two of them. The first was over a French balloon. He ran into strong ground fire during the attack. The balloon caught fire and he turned away. Ground fire had pierced his crankcase and nicked his right foot. Oil streamed back into his face. He aimed the aircraft back toward his lines and set up a shallow glide and switched off the engine as he became totally blinded by the oil. Near the ground, he ran through some telephone wires, crashed and flipped over. He was pinned in the wreck but unhurt. German infantryman pulled him from the wreck moments before the ruptured fuel tank burst in flames consuming the Albatros DVa.

The second victory occured March 9, 1918. Jasta 52 ran into a dogfight with SE5s of No. 40 Sqd. RFC. In the melee, Hasenbein jumped Lt. Tilney and shot him down at about 6AM. Hasenbein appears in an original photo in front of the wreckage of Tilney's SE5. Unfortunately for Hasenbein, Jasta CO Billick actually claimed the victory!!!!!!!!!!

Hasenbein recalled having flown a Fokker DR-1 triplane sometime in 1918. He did not care for the rotary engine. Try as I might, not one record bears the name of Hasenbein on any roster in any book. His victory over the balloon was never confirmed and his victory over Tilney was taken by Billick. He did recall a fellow pilot, Gefreiter Schumm jumping from his burning plane in a parachute but being killed by an unsporting English pilot while dangling in the parachute.

In 1922, Hasenbein came to the USA and worked at Vancura Machine Co. which specialized in Rolls-Royce repairs. He also spent time in San Francisco before returning to Germany in 1930. During the 1930's he ran an auto repair shop in Bremen and designed two light sport aircraft engines. At the outbreak of WW2, Hasenbein became a civilian mechanic with the Luftwaffe's Luftzeugamt. He serviced German aircraft throughout occupied countries of Eastern Europe including Bulgaria. At war's end, he returned to the life of automobile repair in Bremen. He died in 1982."QUOTE



"Hasenbein appears in an original photo in front of the wreckage of Tilney's SE5."
I think that this is our man, Gefreiter Wilhelm Hasenbein, with the "X" marking his spot!


You say it's an S.E.5 and they say it"s an S.E.5, I guess it must be!
How did you do it? Do you just picture it with three wings and then subtract one?

Points to follow.
I figure I have earned a few bonus points for providing so much additional information!

Congratulations on a clean KILL!

[FOKKERJ]

Welcome to our NEW ACE

Now you get to wait 3.0 hours with the rest of us Slugs!

I award you with the keys to the scoreboard and the Challenge Host.
Do us PROUD!

The scoreboard after #381:

45.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ Ace of Aces ¤
35.55 Froggy ¤
32.70 Flamingo ¤
30.10 Rbailey ¤
23.40 Breguet
21.40 Richard B
18.15 YavorD
12.75 Aquilius
12.00 Varese2002
09.25 AROTH
08.10 Rod_Filan
08.00 ONEALM
07.90 Gregvan
07.50 matte_kudasai
06.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Expositor
05.50 Gilles
05.00 Dan_San
05.00 Kilian
05.00 Laserlloyd
................................Have to wait three hours!
04.00 Edmond .............................May start immediately!
04.00 Eric
04.00 Patrick
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.20 Crankcase
03.00 Crimso
02.70 Tbstreet
02.60 Catfish
02.00 Albatros_Ace
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 gregorydquist
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Ampovandak
01.00 Berman
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Troy Raines
01.00 Lodzermensch
00.50 Miroslav Pokorny
00.10 SCMc


Previous Breguet's Crash Files


THE RULES
1. All aircraft are of the 14-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period).
2. All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner!
Offenders will be dealt with severely!
3. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
4. And whom ever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host!
5. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
6. The final arbitrator of all things to do with the "rules" is Breguet

GOOD HUNTING, FOKKERJ

P.S. Now we need to work on SCMc.
I'm a little concerned that he isn't quite ready for solo yet!

[Laserlloyd]

How did you do it? Do you just picture it with three wings and then subtract one?

Once I put on my Tri-Focal's and I can see so mush better. Everything turns in to Tri-dimensional


Well I guess that 5 out of 381 is better then none
It's going to be a long road to 80

I proudly take title of Ace.

Now down to the nitty gritty, I only have my Dr.I photos. I could post one of them...OPP's did I say that out loud. Now that leaves me with... again just Triplane photos. What do I do now?

Lloyd...

[FOKKERJ]

I have some triplane fotos that you may not have seen before, I could loan you one!

I would have to look, but I probably have some easy ones (ones that even I am able to figure out!).

I think that I just heard the dinner bell....Gotta GO!