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Old 10 July 2008, 10:59 AM   #1
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Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #432

Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #432

A front view for a classical looking biplane...



I hate front views

Cheers

Laurent



The scoreboard at the start of challenge #432 is :

82.2 Varese2002 ¤
57.9 Dave_Kent ¤
43.8 Rbailey ¤
15.5 YavorD
13.5 Froggy
13.3 Rod Filan
12.65 Cruze
12.3 Aquilius
8.1 Breguet
7.7 Dan-San
7.6 Flamingo
7.6 trp81
7.4 JohnMacG
7.1 Colin A. Owers
6.7 EdStevens
6.3 Patrick
6.1 joegertler
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.8 richard B
5.7 Ampovandak
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
5.45 GregE
5.3 Crimso
5.3 Der Grüne Flieger
5.2 Doc
5.2 Gilles
5.1 bshatzer
5.0 Tom L
4.7 dpolglaze
4.4 Ross Moorhouse
4.3 edmondthieffry
4.0 greenknight
3.7 Berman
2.5 Gregoire
2.1 Crankcase
2.0 Rickenbaron
1.7 Kilian
1.6 sergio_vitalio
1.3 Cigogne
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1.0 austin08
1.0 Cliff
1.0 cubsfan4life
1.0 gregorydquist
1.0 Luf-Rick
1.0 Mike Westorp
1.0 paolomiana
1.0 Peter Zambori
1.0 rammjaeger
1.0 sobrien
0.8 Machinbird
0.8 tbstreet
0.8 toxisch
0.6 Sreiko
0.5 Martin Irvine
0.4 Vilkata
0.3 Nieuport14
0.3 albapfalzd3
0.2 Paul

Previous challenges: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -here

The rules :

The thread title must be "Breguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
(always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.
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Old 11 July 2008, 04:57 AM   #2
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Lohmer-Daimler biplane?
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Old 11 July 2008, 06:48 AM   #3
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Lohmer-Daimler biplane?
What about 10 cylinder Anzani engine? Isnt' it?
An unusual undercarriage design.
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Old 11 July 2008, 07:24 AM   #4
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Hi Dave, Hi Yavor

No Lohmer-Daimler here, but yes it's a 10 cylinder Anzani engine.

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Old 11 July 2008, 08:13 AM   #5
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100 hp Anzani was mostly used in French and British school aeroplane designs. This aeroplane reminds me J L Hall's "fuselage Caudron" from 1915.
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Old 11 July 2008, 09:13 AM   #6
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Bonjour a tous

This plane looks like a Dorand DO1 with 85 HP anzani-and 4 wheels carriage

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Old 11 July 2008, 03:25 PM   #7
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Not a Dorand Froggy.

I guess it's time to give an other view of the plane



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Old 11 July 2008, 04:23 PM   #8
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Laurent, you gave it away with this picture

This is the 1914 Sallard Biplane entered in the Concours de Sécurité. After that not much was heard from the machine, probably owing to the outbreak of the war.

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Old 12 July 2008, 05:10 AM   #9
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Laurent, you gave it away with this picture
Too easy with the second picture ...

You are right Kees, it's the Sallard Biplane also "known" as the "Avion autostable Sallard".

The next challenge is for Kees.

The scoreboard at the end of challenge #432 is :

83.2 Varese2002 ¤
57.9 Dave_Kent ¤
43.8 Rbailey ¤
15.5 YavorD
13.5 Froggy
13.3 Rod Filan
12.65 Cruze
12.3 Aquilius
8.1 Breguet
7.7 Dan-San
7.6 Flamingo
7.6 trp81
7.4 JohnMacG
7.1 Colin A. Owers
6.7 EdStevens
6.3 Patrick
6.1 joegertler
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.8 richard B
5.7 Ampovandak
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
5.45 GregE
5.3 Crimso
5.3 Der Grüne Flieger
5.2 Doc
5.2 Gilles
5.1 bshatzer
5.0 Tom L
4.7 dpolglaze
4.4 Ross Moorhouse
4.3 edmondthieffry
4.0 greenknight
3.7 Berman
2.5 Gregoire
2.1 Crankcase
2.0 Rickenbaron
1.7 Kilian
1.6 sergio_vitalio
1.3 Cigogne
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1.0 austin08
1.0 Cliff
1.0 cubsfan4life
1.0 gregorydquist
1.0 Luf-Rick
1.0 Mike Westorp
1.0 paolomiana
1.0 Peter Zambori
1.0 rammjaeger
1.0 sobrien
0.8 Machinbird
0.8 tbstreet
0.8 toxisch
0.6 Sreiko
0.5 Martin Irvine
0.4 Vilkata
0.3 Nieuport14
0.3 albapfalzd3
0.2 Paul

Previous challenges: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -here

The rules :

The thread title must be "Breguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
(always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.
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Old 12 July 2008, 12:50 PM   #10
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Quote:
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----- it's the Sallard Biplane also "known" as the "Avion autostable Sallard".

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Hi Laurent. I have surely never seen the front view of the Sallard Biplane. Is it possible that the man sitting nonchalantly on the wing is the designer Henri Sallard?

Sallard was an early flyer, being instructed in 1910 in the Henry Farman School at Etampes. He received brevet civil de l'Aéro-club de France No. 794 on March 9, 1912. After his 1914 biplane he 'evaporated' in the myst of time .......

To augment somewhat on the machine, the engine was a 10-cylinder Anzani engine of 100 hp.

Cheers

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