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22 March 2008, 12:41 PM
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New Scheme for a Famous Albatros...
Hi to all Forumites...
I developed some time ago this theory on the Albatros D-V (2034/17) flown by Eduard Ritter von Schleich in Jasta 21, and though it's been already published in Windsock International in August 2006, I'd be very pleased to hear some comments from this Forum... This is the link for the whole stuff: Ronny Bar : von Schleich's Albatros D.V, August 1917 Thanks in advance to all... Ronny Last edited by Ronny Bar; 22 March 2008 at 01:48 PM. |
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22 March 2008, 01:19 PM
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Greetings Ronny;
I have felt for years that this was a more real impression of this scheme. Nicely done. And the lion is facing the correct direction. Excellent side view. |
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22 March 2008, 01:38 PM
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l am glad someone always is expanding the envelope on historical research and going one step further to challenge accepted versions of history and further the cause of accuracy . Bravo for you
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22 March 2008, 03:05 PM
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Ronnie,
What do you propose is the timeline on the use of this plane? Or maybe a better question is when and where? In any case, it looks like you have put a great deal of thought into the subject and the conclusions you have drawn are very interesting Phil
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22 March 2008, 04:06 PM
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Hi Ronny,
I think I had a conversation with you about this before, but I'm quite certain that the overall blue scheme is correct. The machine is described as such in Der Schwarze Ritter by Schenzinger (1936). Seeing that von Schleich was consulted by the author for details about his war experiences, there is little doubt that the colors are correct. To sum things up: I really like it! BTW, did you get my recent email regarding Escadrille 15? Regards |
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22 March 2008, 05:31 PM
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Thanks, Guys... For your feedback and for your kind words...
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I just arrived that conclussion by watching at the photos... I didn't read Der Schwarze Ritter, (I guess I should, and I'd love to..!) but it's quite reassuring to hear that my theory is supported by the Ritter himself... Thanks a lot for the info and for your comments... And yes, I received your Email with the Esc 15 photos... Didn't answer cause I've been out of town for the last ten days... I'll write to you later... Ronny |
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22 March 2008, 08:23 PM
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I hope Ronny won't mind if I tackle this one. Ritter von Schleich probably received D.2034/17 in the latter part of June or early July 1917. By the beginning of July his unit, Jasta 21, was stationed on the Verdun front at Chassogne Ferme. It is known that von Schleich would put the dates of his victories in the blue/white field of the Bavarian crest located on the fuselage sides. As far as I can tell, he only applied six dates before he repainted the machine entirely black in honor of his fallen comrade Ltn Erich Limpert who was lost on July 27th. This repainting probably occurred near the middle of August, and just before the start of the Third Battle of Verdun which commenced on August 20th, 1917. Regards |
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22 March 2008, 09:24 PM
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Darren...
Not only I don't mind, but I'm mighty thankful for your timely coming to my help...(Just like the 7th Cavalry..!) I've read somewhere that this plane was in use around August 1917, but didn't have the picture as clear as you've presented here... No doubt, you're the expert on "The Black Knight"..! Thanks again for such interesting info... Ronny Last edited by Ronny Bar; 22 March 2008 at 10:00 PM. |
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23 March 2008, 12:21 AM
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Ok gents let me ask you this. What series of Albatros D.V types had the headrests? The trip won't be far at all.
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23 March 2008, 12:42 AM
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Nice work Ronny
 Can I as what drawings you used to start with? The idea of blue has always seemed likely to me, at least I believe I've seen or read this somewhere before. After seeing this I did have to dig out the OLD Profile series booklet with the color paintings of this plane. I'm not sure if it was intended to be shown as yellow paint or natural wood though Those old books may not have the most accurate color art but they sure were (and are) fun to look at!
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