Breguet's Challenge #344

[Ampovandak]

Originally Posted by Varese2002

So here we go again. As some forumites think I am always seeking out very rare types (right they are though ), I have here an 'easy' one with a twist. The full point only goes to the contestant with a complete identification of the machine inclusive all possible particulars.

Here is a new one, for you to have fun with :



Please Varese2002,

I am still newby here ; will you be kind enough to show me how to establish the results ?

Thanks in advance ...

[FOKKERJ]

Ampovandak, Welcome to the Aerodrome and the Breguet Aircraft Challenge.

I see that you have good taste in Seeflugzeug fotografs.

Regards, FOKKERJ

[Crimso]

Russian planes - this is for me
It's Lebed-Morskoy (LM-1) made on Lebedev's factory in 1915. There was two made, on a base of Albatros B.I with added floats and changed engines (Sunbeam 150 h.p.)

[YavorD]

Congratulations Crimso!
A small note - Лебедь Морской 1 was probably based on a prewar (1914) three-bay Albatros biplane (L.I), not a two-bay Alb.B.I. There was similar Albatros biplane on floats (actually amphibian) with 100 hp Mercedes (competitor for 1913 Lake Constance Prize).
Regards,
Yavor

[Crimso]

Originally Posted by YavorD

A small note - Лебедъ Морской 1 was probably based on a prewar (1914) three-bay Albatros biplane (L.I), not a two-bay Alb.B.I. There was similar Albatros biplane on floats (actually amphibian) with 100 hp Mercedes (competitor for 1913 Lake Constance Prize).

Yes, you are right, there is 3-bay Albatros. I just not good in that "german two-seaters", maybe I should read some Windsocks books...

Just for info, in the factory documentation LM-1 was called "Albatros A.2"

And, YavorD, I have a small note for you too Word Лебедъ is should be written as Лебедь. "Ъ" letter is "hard sign" when "Ь" is "soft sign". Word Лебедь means Swan, but in this case it is a fine abbreviation of factory's owner's name Лебедев.
Russian language lesson is over

[Ampovandak]

Maladiets, Crimso !!!

This is prebably a picture of the first of Lebed Morskoï (Maritime) LM-1 !!!

You can see more details in this russian site : ìÅÂÅÄÅ× ìí-1 (ìÅÂÅÄØ íÏÒÓËÏÊ-1)

Through automatic translator : Translated version of http://www.airwar.ru/enc/other1/lm1.html


Order of battle after Breguet's Challenge #344

65.4 Varese2002
46.9 Dave_Kent
32.9 Rbailey
14.6 YavorD
13.3 Rod Filan
8.8 Cruze
8.5 Froggy
7.7 Dan-San
7.6 trp81
7.4 JohnMacG
7.0 Breguet
6.7 EdStevens
6.1 joegertler
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
5.5 Patrick
5.4 Colin A. Owers
5.3 Der Grüne Flieger
5.2 Gilles
5.1 bshatzer
5.0 Tom L
4.7 dpolglaze
4.5 Doc
4.4 Ross Moorhouse
4.3 edmondthieffry
4.0 greenknight
3.0 Crimso
2.7 Berman
2.5 Gregoire
2.1 Crankcase
2.0 Rickenbaron
1.6 sergio_vitalio
1.5 Kilian
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1.0 Ampovandak
1.0 Luf-Rick
1.0 austin08
1.0 Cliff
1.0 cubsfan4life
1.0 Peter Zambori
1.0 rammjaeger
1.0 Cigogne
1.0 Mike Westorp
1.0 sobrien
1.0 Flamingo
0.8 Machinbird
0.8 tbstreet
0.6 Sreiko
0.5 Martin Irvine
0.4 Vilkata
0.3 albapfalzd3
0.2 Paul_J._Fisher

Crimso, it is your turn !!!

[YavorD]

Thank you, Crimso!
Лебедь is corrected.
Regards,
Yavor

[Kilian]

That would explain why i thougt that it looks like an Alb But then i thought it cant be a German. Do we know what propeller was mounted on this?
Nice challenge.