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1 January 2008, 08:59 AM
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Breguet's Crash file #158
Happy new year to everyone, and to start off 2008 I will post something that is a bit less common but not really difficult, although the exact designation may be somewhat questionable.
The score at the end of # 157 is: 19.75 Rbailey 12.1 Fokkerj Feuchtwanger 11.65 YavorD 11.35 Breguet 10.90 Froggy 07.60 Rod_Filan 07.4 Gregvan 06.3 Varese2002 05.75 Ross 05.5 Expositor 05.5 Gilles 05.0 Dan_San 04.0 Edmond 04.0 Eric 03.5 ONEALM 03.0 sergio_vitalio 02.7 Colin A Owers 02.25 Patrick 02.2 Crankcase 02.0 Cruze 02.0 Rickenbaron 02.0 Kilian 01.8 Tom L 01.0 Berman 01.0 Cliff 01.0 Jeroplan 01.0 PaulForster 01.0 Pvernon 01.0 Troy Raines 01.0 Ransom E. Olds 01.0 rammjaeger 00.75 Der Grüne Flieger 00.7 tbstreet __________________ |
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1 January 2008, 10:00 AM
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Rumpler C.I?
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1 January 2008, 12:42 PM
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A Sopwith Pup.
Just kidding! On closer examination, it looks like a coffin on a gurney with the accompanying funerary draperies (trappings) that just fell out of the back of a transport, land or air. Regards, FF Last edited by FOKKERJ; 1 January 2008 at 05:31 PM. |
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1 January 2008, 02:25 PM
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Hello
My guess is a Taube type plane-An Etrich rumpler Taube like this one http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/...neufchatel.jpg Cordialement Bruno
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2 January 2008, 01:53 AM
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Is that a skid between the wheels or a broken spar?
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3 January 2008, 06:51 AM
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Not a Rumpler; not a Taube. As I don't know the fate of the pilot, I don't know how appropriate Fokkerj's description is. And it is a skid, Breguet.
Perhaps a view from a different angle will generate more response. |
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3 January 2008, 07:43 AM
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Ooo Ooo !
Looks like an early, pre-war Nieuport. Maybe a IV G ?
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3 January 2008, 09:14 AM
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I think that ONEALM is on to something.
First impression, the second picture looks French (the fellow with cape). The tail matches a Nieuport monoplane, my resources call for a Nieuport VIM ( M=militaire), not a Ni. IV. Regards, FOKKERJ |
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3 January 2008, 09:39 AM
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Hello
Not easy to ,determine which early nieuport it is but onealm i right may be a nieuport II : Nieuport 2 Drawings a Nieuport IV : Nieuport 4 Drawings or armoured Nieuport VI ? : Nieuport 6 Drawings I think Onealm is right with a nieuport IV cordialement Bruno
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3 January 2008, 11:57 AM
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I thought the prominence of the tail in the second picture would give it away. It is a Nieuport monoplane, but whether 4 or 6 (M in either case) is not evident from this, as I implied in the challenge. The picture is of a Russian machine from 1915 (no Frenchman with a cape) so although a pre-war design, it is a machine taking part in the war, and both 4 and 6 were in use. The only identification I have is Russian nieuport.
I think ONEALM is close enough to get the point. The score at the end of # 158 is: 19.75 Rbailey 12.1 Fokkerj Feuchtwanger 11.65 YavorD 11.35 Breguet 10.90 Froggy 07.60 Rod_Filan 07.4 Gregvan 06.3 Varese2002 05.75 Ross 05.5 Expositor 05.5 Gilles 05.0 Dan_San 04.0 Edmond 04.0 Eric 04.5 ONEALM 03.0 sergio_vitalio 02.7 Colin A Owers 02.25 Patrick 02.2 Crankcase 02.0 Cruze 02.0 Rickenbaron 02.0 Kilian 01.8 Tom L 01.0 Berman 01.0 Cliff 01.0 Jeroplan 01.0 PaulForster 01.0 Pvernon 01.0 Troy Raines 01.0 Ransom E. Olds 01.0 rammjaeger 00.75 Der Grüne Flieger 00.7 tbstreet |
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