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29 June 2007, 07:42 PM
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aluminum bronze?
Hi Guys, Can anyone give me an idea as to what this color looked like? Some say silver but I think it would be more of a metallic, brown-ish color. The Czech description is; "hlinikovym bronzen". Thanks to all for your comments.
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29 June 2007, 08:32 PM
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John Fitz Quote:aluminum bronze?
Hi Guys, Can anyone give me an idea as to what this color looked like? Some say silver but I think it would be more of a metallic, brown-ish color. The Czech description is; "hlinikovym bronzen". Thanks to all for your comments.
Hi John Fitz,
I have probably worked with it or some variation. I would have to say that the color depends on the percentage of the contents. Most alloys are altered by varying the amounts of the ingredients, usually to take advantage of one mineral's properties for the desired results.
Aluminum Bronze should have aluminum as it's main ingredient since it is listed first. Remember that I am not, nor profess to be a metalurgist!
Hope that's a help, FOKKERJ P.S. If you are just doing research for portrait or modelling, don't go to heavy with the bronze color! As for aluminum, is it cast, extruded, machined, and or polished? The color, texture, value, etc. can vary greatly. With out any color added it can run the gamut from dull Grey to shiny Silver in appearance.
Last edited by FOKKERJ; 29 June 2007 at 08:46 PM.
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30 June 2007, 12:37 AM
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FS595b color 17178 is exact match.
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30 June 2007, 06:45 AM
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If this 'aluminium bronze' does came from a german source, it just mean that this is a aluminium pigmented paint / dope, what ever. It has nothing to do with bronze as a copper based alloy. For unknown reasons the german paint industry still calls metal pigmented paints/dopes in general 'Bronzen'. Maybe as all 'golden' pigments are based on copper alloys and 'silver' shades came later, I have no idea. German paint designation are sometime very confusing as they are using often 'traditional' names for paints which have nothing to do with the real components or they are using brand names as generic designations - a habit which makes 'paint research' not easy at all.
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30 June 2007, 09:26 AM
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[QUOTE=Hans;332409]If this 'aluminium bronze' does came from a german source,.......
Hi Hans,
Your description sounds more like Silber Bronze. This is a silky luster metallic effect varnish for inside and outside. Highly heat-resistant (to 350 °C) and weatherproofly. For the coating of stove flues, steam heating systems, silos and iron constructions.
Aluminium Bronze is an Alloy. Refer the explanation by wikipedia. Link: Aluminium bronze - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Regards
Pfalz-Scout
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30 June 2007, 03:21 PM
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Pfalz-Scout, I am fully aware that there is an alloy with this name. But what is JohnFitz looking for? The hue of this alloy? Or what kind of paint, when so called, this could be? Silberbronze is not used with this designation on a/c's. Technically it does not contain silver. It is made from aluminium pigment. And there a various uses where these aluminium 'paints' are used.
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1 July 2007, 07:46 AM
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aluminum bronze
Guy's, thanks for all of your input. It is the final hue of color that I am trying to get right. It is probably true that it was much like silver but more towards grey. Just depended on the amount of "bronze" added. This would explain the contrast in color between the un-painted aluminum cowl and the under surface of the wing in the photo I posted. Cheers!
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