Breguet's Crash file #66

[Breguet]

Another offering from Mike

Scoreboard:

08.8 Rbailey
07.05 YavorD
05.5 Fokkerj
05.5 Breguet
05.4 Gregvan
04.5 Gilles
04.0 Edmond
04.0 Eric
04.0 Ross
03.0 Rickenbaron
01.9 Dan_San
01.8 Tom L
01.3 Colin Owers
01.3 Varese2002
01.0 Berman
01.0 C_Thurman
01.0 Cruze
01.0 Expositor
01.0 ONEALM
01.0 PaulForster
01.0 Rod Filan
01.0 Troy Raines
00.75 Der Grüne Flieger
00.2 Crankcase

[Ransom E. Olds]

Standard J-1? Ransom

[Patrick]

Well, I struck out with my guess of a D.H.4 on the last crash pic, but here we go again.

I think it's an Airco D.H.9.

1. It's a big Brit plane with a two-bladed prop.

2. The aileron control horn is in the right place and and the control wire seems to enter the wing at the right place. Also, the pulley cover for the control wire at the leading edge matches the D.H.9.

3. The cutout in the top wing over the cockpit area matches the D.H.9.

4. The top wing shows a lot of ribs, matching other D.H.9 pics I have.

5. There appears to be a radiator coolent pipe running from the engine to a large vertical "pillar" or streamlined fairing -- same for a D.H.9.

6. You can see one of the two round holes from the nose of a D.H.9 cowling between the legs of the third figure from the left.

7. The little bit of horizontal stabilizer showing is a good match for the profile of a D.H.9.

8. The rudder counterbalance and vertical stabilizer area is a good match for a D.H.9.

9. The configuration and "weight" of the struts is a good match to the D.H.9.

10. The engine area is a good match to the exhaust-side of a D.H.9.

11. I've got several other D.H.9 crash photos, and they all nose over at nearly the identical angle creating much the same kind of image.

[FOKKERJ]

Hi Breguet,
I know it's too early for a wager, but as usual I firstly studied the foto, made an educated guess [sometimes uneducated], then read any guesstimations. If they're right, so ends my research.

By Jove! I think he's got it!
The first thing I saw was the classic De Havilland tail, but the cabane struts looked a little too tall! A quick look at the nose suggested D.H.9. After reading Patrick's well thought out piece, I can only say that I concur.

Thanks, FOKKERJ

[Breguet]

Welcome to the scoreboard Patrick! This is indeed a DH 9 the aircraft of Paul Feuchtwanger, as if a crash isn't bad enough imagine that handle! (Apologies to any Feuchtwangers out there, but you got to admit......)

08.8 Rbailey
07.05 YavorD
05.5 Fokkerj
05.5 Breguet
05.4 Gregvan
04.5 Gilles
04.0 Edmond
04.0 Eric
04.0 Ross
03.0 Rickenbaron
01.9 Dan_San
01.8 Tom L
01.3 Colin Owers
01.3 Varese2002
01.0 Berman
01.0 C_Thurman
01.0 Cruze
01.0 Expositor
01.0 ONEALM
01.0 Patrick
01.0 PaulForster
01.0 Rod Filan
01.0 Troy Raines
00.75 Der Grüne Flieger
00.2 Crankcase

[Patrick]

Thanks!

bet that was a tough childhood!

[ONEALM]

Indeed a crash by New jersey native Paul Jerrold Feuchtwanger from Madison (the "Rose Capital" of the US - before we stareted importing from South America).

This photo was originally captioned "Got lost and crash landed this DH 9 in England. That's my back. November 28, 1917." Unfortunately, no other details have been located.

Feuchtwanger was trained initially in Canada and later in England. His assignments are not well known, but he was at Old Sarum in the Spring of 1918 and this shot is possibly from that time.

He was later assigned to the U.S. 100th Aero Squadron a unit activated the day before the armistice.

[FOKKERJ]

Breguet Quote: Welcome to the scoreboard Patrick! This is indeed a DH 9 the aircraft of Paul Feuchtwanger, as if a crash isn't bad enough imagine that handle! (Apologies to any Feuchtwangers out there, but you got to admit......)

Hi Breguet, I don't get it. I fail to see the humor in this. Am I missing something? Is there something you would like to share with the rest of us? Thanks, FokkerJ Feuchtwanger