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Old 9 July 2002, 05:33 PM   #1
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Since you have the 1st photo of the Halberstadt 'bombing' up on your web site, any idea of the unit? And I do not mean the chevron marked Schlasta 27b Halberstadt, the one in the thread "Priesterminen" presented directly above it by Immo Fresse.

Any and all help gratefully appreciated. Or by anyone else who has the answer. I'm not too fussy, I just what the information. R.
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Old 9 July 2002, 05:48 PM   #2
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WOW !!!! You guys (and gals) are FAST. I was still attempting to get the punctuation, contex, and question propery framed, and when I checked (no more than two minutes after I first submitted it), it had already been read 3 TIMES. To say the least, I am impressed. R.
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Without any unit markings it would be nearly impossible to determine unless one has knownledge of exactly where the photo itself originated. Perhaps he knows more about the photo. I believe a few folks are working on a book about Schlasta units ?? Perhaps they have the photo ID.

I have some profiles of the Halb on my site you may be interested in.

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Old 9 July 2002, 08:23 PM   #4
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"I believe a few folks are working on a book about Schlasta units ?? *Perhaps they have the photo ID."

* *I wonder who these idiots might be?? * * R.
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Old 9 July 2002, 10:53 PM   #5
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Quite right Rick ! Someone starting with the Schusta/schlasta histories should indeed be crazy !

Just found a great picture of a observer/gunner of a Schlasta (unit unknown) standing up with his gun in hands and with a 1916 Stahlhelm. Anything you can use ???

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Rick,

I scanned the picture from a catalogue made for a WW1 exposition in Osnabrück a few years ago. The original photo comes from the 'Bibliothek für Zeitgeschichte' in Stuttgart. Perhaps they know more about it. Here you can find further information:

http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/bfz/english/ar...rchiv_coll.html

Perhaps you can contact Frau Irina Rentz via email.

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Old 10 July 2002, 07:41 AM   #7
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Hi Rick,

I'm fairly certain Pete Grosz would have a copy of the photo you desire, as well as many others of Schlasta crews preparing for battle (not just the famous "Brunhilde" shots either). When those two idiots get ready to publish their book on Schustas/Schlastas, they should contact Pete. I think he even has a shot of a Halberstadt CL.II crew taking on a cage of passenger pigeons.

On the other hand, I've seen the same photo you want published several times, with the credit "Weltkriegsbucherei, Stuttgart", which may be associated with the same institution mentioned by Immo.

I don't know of ANYONE else (in this country) who might have a good cellection of Schlasta photos.

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Old 10 July 2002, 11:03 AM   #8
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* *I have seen that photograph identified as Schlasta 28b. sorry I can't remember where, maybe one of Nowarra's books.
* * * * * * * * *Blue skies,
* * * * * * * * * * One of those idiots.
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Old 10 July 2002, 11:24 AM   #9
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I just got unlazy and found it, it is in, "Pictorial History of the Luftwaffe, Vol. III-1918 on page 15.
The caption reads: "Halberstadt CL II's of the bavarian Schlactstaffel 28, Caudry 1918." Top and middle photographs. Of interest there does not appear have any unit markings. They are lousy prints, badly burned. A better photo may reveal some markings., like perhaps a blue and white tail plane? Will close another door?
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Hi Guys,

Yup, Dan, I found it too, probably at the same time you did. Note, though that the terse title for the whole page (3 photos) is " Bavarian Schlachtstaffel 28, Caudry, Match 1918", and the bottom photo shows what we know are Halberstadts of Bavarian Schlasta 23, not 28. It's not the first time dear old Nowarra contradicted himself. However, from the markings (or lack of them, as you note) it does not seem that the bottom photo shows the same unit as the other two, so perhaps the top two could be 28 ?? Or is 28 a typo for 23 ? Maybe some day we'll know for sure.

I note this photo (of the crew bombing up) in the Halberstadt CL.II Datafile 27, too, where it is not identified.

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