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23 February 2007, 07:48 PM
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Forum Ace of Aces
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Fokker #2071
Can anyone tell me anything about the history of 2071?
I came across a reference but couldn't be sure if it came to the US or not.
Thank you,
John
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28 February 2007, 02:46 PM
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No responses so far which is a little surprising considering all of the knowledge that is connected to the forum. Let me try a different appraoach. Is there a list available that details all of the D VIIs that came to the US? Were any imported privately or were all of them war prizes?
Regards,
John
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1 March 2007, 08:56 AM
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Forum Ace
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2071... Which type?
You only threw the number 2071 up there. You didn't specify type, or if it had a /15, /16, /17, or /18. Needle in a haystack.
Now that you said D.VII, that gives everyone something to work with. Also, can you specify if it was Fokker, OAW, or Albatros built? Not all Fokker D.VIIs were "Fokker" D.VIIs. Any more clues you can give us?
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1 March 2007, 02:29 PM
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Cigogne,
Apologies. I was thinking D VII when I wrote it!
No other information. It was a photo of the ZAK stamp area on an upper wing spar that showed this number as a stamp or stencil, a pencilled date and the burned in ZAK marking.
The date was: 30.9.18
I was hoping that the number alone would provide a clue as to the manufacturer.
I do not have the actual photo so I, regrettably, cannot scan and post for you.
Regards,
John
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1 March 2007, 04:35 PM
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Shot Down
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That might be a werke number. I'll check my lists too.
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2 March 2007, 07:34 AM
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Rest in Peace
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I have a work number of 2071 listed for a Fok. Dr.I 446/17.
Lloyd
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2 March 2007, 03:31 PM
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laserlloyd,
Thanks for the info, but it is/was on a D VII wing spar not a Dr1.
BTW, does the xxx/17, xxx/18 indicate the build year, fuselage build date, acceptance date or something else I'm not thinking of? Do they always coincide ie could a pencilled inscription ending in .17 be on a /18 airframe?
Regards,
John
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2 March 2007, 05:24 PM
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Rest in Peace
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Hi Maxim08:
The /17 and /18 are not for the dates. The /17 is for the Dr.I's and the /18 is for the D VII's.
Lloyd...
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3 March 2007, 10:44 PM
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Rest in Peace
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Wing number 2071.
Maxim 08:
Wing number 2071 dated 9/30/18 can not be a Fokker wing. On Fok.D.VII 382/18 the wing number was 2455. Albatros would be in the 5000- 6000 number range.
The number cannot be an OAW serial number, D.VII(OAW)2071/18 would have been built in March or April 1918. It is most likely that it is an OAW built wing from a Fok.D.VII(OAW) 6525/18 to 6624/18 serial number range.
Blue skies,
Dan-San
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4 March 2007, 08:26 AM
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Dan,
Thank you for the information.
I understand that 43 D VIIs were seized by the British between February 13, 1919 and November 14th, 1919. Of these, 8 came to Canada plus another 7 although I am not clear why some a/c came through the British and some appear to have been directly into Canadian hands. None of the Canadian serials fall into the group you specify although 3 of the British do; 6550, 6556 and 6558.
Is there any way to trace this wing to a specific capture? Are there records that show what serials were brought into the US?
Many thanks for your input.
regards,
John
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