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Old 10 January 2007, 05:05 PM   #1
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Old 10 January 2007, 05:19 PM   #2
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Looks Turkish by the insignia and a bit of a DFWish in the wings. Otherwise I havn't a clue!

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Old 10 January 2007, 06:03 PM   #3
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I do apologize for the poor quality of the picture. It's enlarged to twice original size, as it was the best of the very few I could find and was a little too small to make a decent presentation.
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Old 10 January 2007, 08:05 PM   #4
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Old 11 January 2007, 01:34 AM   #5
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Possibly one (of two) DFW-Mars-Doppeldecker which were sold to the Ottoman Empire in 1913.
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I do not think it is German. The propeller looks like British.
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Old 11 January 2007, 03:10 AM   #7
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Yes, the propeller ist not looking German but spares were rare in Turkey.

BTW the Britons bought a Mars-Doppel-Decker too.

A clear shot of the tail section would show if this is a Mars-DD.

The wings and struts are German (or stolen!).
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Looks very much like the Spanish Air Service biplane, but i have no idea what the official designation was.
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Based on JANE’S Fighting Aircraft, a Spanish military Type “W”, whatever that is.

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Old 11 January 2007, 07:16 AM   #10
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You guys are almost there - you've got two out of three. Rbailey and Dave are correct in that it is Spanish and was known as the "W." Now who can tell me the designer/manufacturer?

Hint: the information IS available on the internet, although I haven't yet found it on any English-language pages.





This is a good example of the tricks orthochromatic film can play on us. The Spanish national marking was a square split into three bands of red, yellow and red to mimic the Spanish flag. It's very difficult - if not impossible - to see the difference between the red and yellow on some ortho prints, making the Spanish marking appear to be a Turkish one.
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