The Aerodrome Home Page
Aces of WWI
Aircraft of WWI
Books and Film
The Aerodrome Forum
Help
Links to Other Sites
Medals and Decorations
Search The Aerodrome
Today in History


The Aerodrome Forum

Over The Front

Go Back   The Aerodrome Forum > WWI Aviation > Aircraft

Aircraft Topics related to WWI aircraft, aircraft engines and armament

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 18 January 2006, 03:05 PM   #1
chip2494
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

The Fastest Fighter in WWI

I have read at various places that either the Spad XIII or the SE5a were the fastest fighter of that period.

Anyone have any opinions?
 
Old 18 January 2006, 04:24 PM   #2
Elfen
Observer
 
Elfen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: nyc, ny
Posts: 70

The Spad is the faster plane, though its flight characteristics were least to be desired (high stall speed, thin wings with low lift, etc...). The SE5a was a more forgiving aircraft, though some pilots hated it.

Stats on the Spad XIII
http://www.theaerodrome.com/aircraft...spad_xiii.html

Stats on the SE5a
http://www.theaerodrome.com/aircraft...n/raf_se5.html
__________________
Average a sum of 181 kills on Red Baron Simulation... Dont ask how many time I been killed!
Elfen is offline  
Old 18 January 2006, 06:10 PM   #3
Brad
Forum Ace of Aces
 
Brad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Ft. Worth, Texas
Posts: 3,241

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elfen
The Spad is the faster plane, though its flight characteristics were least to be desired (high stall speed, thin wings with low lift, etc...). The SE5a was a more forgiving aircraft, though some pilots hated it.

Stats on the Spad XIII
http://www.theaerodrome.com/aircraft...spad_xiii.html

Stats on the SE5a
http://www.theaerodrome.com/aircraft...n/raf_se5.html
The Germans had one almost as fast... in 1915!

The Junkers JII (EI was the military designation I THINK, might have been EII)

Brad
__________________
Brad

No war for environmentalists! Drill here!

"My point is that KILLING BABIES ON PURPOSE IS NEVER OKAY. " - Craig

"Not even before they are born! " - ME

"Is nailing Jell-O to the wall productive?" - Barker
Brad is offline  
Old 18 January 2006, 06:31 PM   #4
Tedders
Observer
 
Tedders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 49

 
Italian!

The Savoia-Verduzio-Ansaldo (SVA)5 was rather quick: 143 mh when everything worked right (as can be said for all the machines of that period). This was at sea-level. But the endurance! Four hours!!

Fly laughing!
Tedders
Tedders is offline  
Old 18 January 2006, 07:37 PM   #5
F=MA
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

Hard to answer that question as, speed is not absolute, it is contextual to the altitude it is rated at, in addition to any reporting errors or measuring instrument innacuracies.

For example, the Bristol M1c did 130 mph in 1916, at sea level. However, speed fell off rapidly at higher altitude due to the rotary engine.

F=MA
 
Old 21 January 2006, 04:14 PM   #6
Vin
Forum Ace
 
Join Date: Sep 1998
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,681

 
Monoplanes should have the edge as is illustrated by the Bristol M1c being capable of 130 mph in 1916-1917. The surprise, even having regard to the difference in engine power, is the D V111 which was not only a monoplane but considerably lighter than the D V11 yet slower. l
__________________
Honorary Consultant on Policy and Ethics
On a Holy Purpose
The absolute self-appointed authority
Too myopic to comprehend
Fools and cowards
Foolish do-gooder, you aid and abett (sic) the devil
Such a crotchety old man
Vin is offline  
Old 21 January 2006, 04:54 PM   #7
Southside Bucky
Forum Ace
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: London
Posts: 565

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad
The Germans had one almost as fast... in 1915!

The Junkers JII (EI was the military designation I THINK, might have been EII)

Brad

The British had one (and only one) in June 1914!

The SE4. Top speed: 135mph...Fastest plane in the world at the time!

Regards.

Bucky.

Last edited by Southside Bucky; 21 January 2006 at 05:23 PM.
Southside Bucky is offline  
Old 21 January 2006, 05:36 PM   #8
F=MA
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

No surprise the D VIII was a slug. It didn't get a powerplant even worth mentioning. You can't go fast w/o horsepower. It's all about power to weight baby, more wings need more power but less power kills any wing configuration.

F=MA
 
Old 21 January 2006, 07:08 PM   #9
Taz
Forum Ace
 
Taz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 2,738

 
F=MA- The D.VII with the BMW engine had 185 hp at sea level and 260 hp at altitude and was more than a match for any allied fighter. The thick wing profile Fokker learned from Junkers generated more lift and less drag than contemporary thin winged designs. The lack of bracing wires also gave it an advantage in drag. That is a few of the reasons why the D.VII ended up with more victories than any other WW-I figher and why it was the only aircraft required to be turned in in totality after the war. The overcompressed Mercedes engined models did just fine, also, for the same reasons.

Taz
Terry Phillips
Taz is offline  
Old 22 January 2006, 07:25 AM   #10
F=MA
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

D VIII as in D "8", Taz. That girl got a similar rotary salad spinner to the DR.1., a little out of touch by 1918, I'd say.

F=MA
 
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
fastest, fighter


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
fastest aircraft jbs Aircraft 5 11 September 2002 12:01 AM
Why so many fighter gregoire Other WWI Aviation 13 4 September 2002 10:30 AM
best looking fighter johnf 2001 4 30 November 2001 06:02 PM
Fastest ME 262 (Off subject) leo 2001 6 3 March 2001 05:56 AM
Fighter vs. Fighter Aces john g 1999 15 8 January 1999 02:37 AM


As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.