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21 November 2005, 01:14 PM
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Beginning, end
Did anyone that enlisted in 1914 ever make it through the wholle war without getting killed?
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23 November 2005, 06:49 PM
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Forum Ace
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There were a number of 1914 enlistees who survived the war, but most spent time in the ground contingent prior to their involvement with flying. Some of the well-known 1914 enlistees who survived the war include Ernst Udet, who began service as a motorcycle courier, William Barker who entered service with the Canadian Mounted Rifles, and Bill Thaw whose introduction to military life was the Foreign Legion, even though he was already a qualified pilot.
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26 November 2005, 12:21 PM
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Isn't Bill Thaw also known as William Thaw?
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26 November 2005, 03:40 PM
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Two-seater Pilot
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Formerly London, now Kent
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Originally Posted by ww1 ace
Did anyone that enlisted in 1914 ever make it through the wholle war without getting killed?
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I wasn't previously aware that it would have been a sufficiently rare event to have been worthy of note.
Does anyone have either the actual figures, [say as a percentage], or at least a best guess as to how many personnel this would have applied to?
Mike.
[BTW: total includes Fritz Beckhardt].
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26 November 2005, 03:52 PM
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Observer
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Leopoldsburg Belgium
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Survivors
Several of the Belgian Aces survived the entire war as airman, men such as Jan Olieslagers and Fernand Jacquet, both active as airmen on the 4th of august 1914, Willy Coppens joined the Air Service in 1914 but did not reach the front as an airmen until 1916.
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27 November 2005, 01:37 AM
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Forum Ace
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Paris France
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I can add a few french pilot like vedrine that was a pre war pilot or Navarre that joined the army as a pilot
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29 November 2005, 12:55 PM
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Two-seater Pilot
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Edingen
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Originally Posted by ww1 ace
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Bill was his nickname, William Thaw his real name. Probably nicknamed Bill because of his American nationality. He died of pneumonia in 1934.
He was more known as a leader , than as an ace, really, as you can see, "only" 5 victories, and still, he became very well-known
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1 December 2005, 01:04 AM
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Forum Ace
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Warsaw
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In my beloved Austro-Hungarian Empire there were several aces who survived the whole war, from 1914 till 1918 as active pilots.
G.
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3 December 2005, 11:58 AM
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Rest in Peace
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kent, England
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One RFC non-ace and one RNAS ace:
"Stuffy" Dowding, appointed to the Royal Flying Corps Reserve in April 1914; not sure what happened to him after WWI
Christopher Draper (the "Mad Major") - appointed a Flight Sub-Lieutenant in July 1914 and made it through to the end of the war, claiming nine victories and picking up a Distinguished Service Cross and a French Croix de Guerre avec Palme.
Graeme
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11 December 2005, 08:56 AM
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Observer
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Peoria, IL, USA
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Originally Posted by Graeme
One RFC non-ace and one RNAS ace:
"Stuffy" Dowding, appointed to the Royal Flying Corps Reserve in April 1914; not sure what happened to him after WWI
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Dowding
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