Leyland & Crossley Trucks?

[MicroSculpt]

Greetings, all!

Just wanted to access the collective brain again. Anyone out there know if there exist accurate plans (scale drawings) for the Crossley Tender and/or Leyland RFC Tender?

A brief search through google has not revealed anything. I did however come across the Crossley site with some nice photos.

BTW, the Australian War Memorial is a great site! Found some really interesting SE5a shots and photos on the Leyland. A wonderful resource.

Cheers!

Tom

[mossie]

[Source: Airfix Mag Guide 27 - Modelling RAF Vehicles]
All in in 1/76 scale

Page 31 plan of Layland Subsidy A type, fuel truck
Page 39 Rolls-Royce armoured car early pattern
Page 40 Rolls-Royce Tender (1930 period)
Page 41 plan of Crossley 4 x 2 seater car
Page 44 plan of Crossley Tender

See also http://www.landships.freeservers.com...lcan_et_al.htm for some early truck drawings. Also a number of others at http://www.landships.freeservers.com/artillery.htm A little down the list to Softskins.

[edmondthieffry]

Hello Microsculpt,

I think that John Church and Geoff Lacey made good plans of these lorries (as many others vehicles). Don't know if they have a website but you can contact the MAFVA (Miniature Armoured Fighting Vehicles Association.

Hope this is help.

Best regards from Belgium

Philippe

[MicroSculpt]

That is exactly what I was looking for!!!!

What a wonderful resource the Aerodrome is.

Thanks guys!

Tom

[MicroSculpt]

Greetings, all!

My quest for info on the Crossley Tender and Staff Car continues. Thanks to those that have responded.

Just for the record, the tender at the RAF Museum is not 100% accurate. Judging the specimen against period photos (http://www.crossley-motors.org.uk/WW1.html), the cab is totally wrong.

Likewise for the example at the Australian War Memorial Museum. The cab and canvas cover do not match period photos. Their example is currently undergoing conservation.

The plans in the Airfix quide are pretty accurate in general layout. However, the rear view of the tender does not accurately represent the cargo bed.

I'm pursuing a few more leads. I'll let you know what I find. The Crossley has proved to be a rare animal indeed!

Tom

[PeterL]

Great link Mossie! I saved those drawings for decades, only for them to succumb to water damage during my most recent house move. Now I want a drawing for that little Fiat on the second link! There's just no pleasing some people.

p.s. The Matchbox Crossley is 1:47 scale. Close enough for gummint work.

[MicroSculpt]

Greetings, all!

My research on the elusive Crossley Tender continues.

Thanks to all that have replied and supplied materials. Especially to Eric Knut Hagen for his museum images.

I would also like to go on record to say that the Australian War Memorial is a FANTASTIC resource! After some inquires about the Crossley Tender, yesterday I received in the mail, two large sheets copied from original factory plans of two versions of the tender! What excellent service!

The down side is that neither of them match period photographs of the version I'm researching. They look to be a later versions based on the longer chassis. Perhaps dating around 1919. However, they still contain valueable dimensions and insight into construction methods.

Sadly inquires to the IWM yielded nothing. It sounds as if they are struggling. Their photo service is not available and they could find nothing on the subject.

I did come across a wonderful article online about Lawrence of Arabia's desert airforce that contained some great photos of Crossleys used for recon duties. See http://www.rogerandfran.fsnet.co.uk/...force/pg1.html

It is becoming apparent that, like aircraft of the period, there were inumberable modifications to these vehicles during production runs. It is difficult to find photos that match in all details. Different fender treatments, hoods (canvas covers) and bed details abound.

It will take me a while longer to sort things out, but I'm closer to developing an accurate set of plans than a few weeks ago.

Anyone out there with period photos to share??? Yours may contain valuable details to complete the project.

Thanks!

Tom

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Microsculpt:
I have "Military Transport of World War 1" by C.Ellis and D.Bishop, Published by THE MACMILLAN COMPANY, New York NY, 1970. The Leyland 3 ton Subsidy A Van is Illustration 45, in 3/4 left rear view. Illustration 57 is the Leyland Subsidy A Type, 1915-18. A 3/4 right front view of the Crossley Tender, 1918 is Illustration 79.
If these are of help, I would be pleased to mail you copies of the illustrations. Please include you mailing address.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

[MicroSculpt]

Dan-San:

Any images would be helpful indeed! This is the first time I've heard of the "Military Transport of World War 1" publication. I'll have to track it down. Do you consider it a worthwhile acquisition?

My address is:
Tom Sollers
4517 Whetstone Court
Hampstead, MD 21074

Many thanks!

Tom

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Microsculpt:
Yes.
Blue skies,
Dan-San