The Albatros D.III of Eddy Lübberts

[Dario_Silva]

Hello Everybody

Could some of you tell me, how was the location of the colors, of the Albatros D.III of Eddy Lübberts?

In the excellent Book of the JG1 of Osprey, Greg VanWyngarden writes a story where he says that its airplane Albatros D.III was colored half blue, half yellow.

My doubt is: As these colors they were applied in the airplane?

Maybe the tail yellow and a section of the fuselage blue??

For these days it was already common to paint all the airplanes of Jasta 11 with the front part of Red?

Could somebody give me an orientation on this matter?

Grateful of any comment that can give.

Dario

P.D: is there some airplane associated to their brother Friedrich? (Who later on enter in Jasta 11)

Excuse my very bad English.

[StephenLawson]

Greetings Dario Silva;
Here's my interpretation...
http://www.us-aircraft.com/images/yellowalbatross.jpg
http://www.darkmatterinc.tv/rmipms/i...ii_11_1917.jpg

[Cigogne]

Dario,

At this time the painting of the Jasta 11 machines to mostly red had not yet occurred. Lübbert's plane was painted like this in March 1917. There is a photo of the machine from afar that shows the port side of this machine and it looks like this. My recollection was that Lübbert was killed in the same month.

Stephen, your interpretation looks great!

[StephenLawson]

Originally Posted by Cigogne

Dario, At this time the painting of the Jasta 11 machines to mostly red had not yet occurred. Lübbert's plane was painted like this in March 1917. There is a photo of the machine from afar that shows the port side of this machine and it looks like this. My recollection was that Lübbert was killed in the same month.

Stephen, your interpretation looks great!

In this case I can thank Greg VanWyngarden for his comments while I was inprocess of the build. Colours being subjective and all, I may have gotten them too intense.

[Dario_Silva]

Friend Stephen and Cigogne

Excellent their model, Stephen!!

Those images contain a lot of information. I thank.

I can see the camouflage pattern in the superior part of the wings, and both lateral views, it is a very attractive model of painting. Very attractive.

I congratulate him for their work in that airplane!!

Grateful of Aaron's info on this airplane.

Did it leave in some publication the photo that you mention? Is some Web site where I can see the photograph of this airplane?

Was this the same airplane where they call: He bullets catches? (Kugelfänge? is it written this way?)

Eddy Lübbert died March 30, 1917. Maybe flying this airplane?

Is it known who shot down?

Grateful to all.

Dario

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Dario Silva:
In August 1976 I did a study of this machine, although at the time I did not know who the pilot was. The photographs used in the study of this machine were from the Peter M.Grosz Achives. All were close ups of the machine. The fuselage was quartered, bottom left and top right were white and the top left and bottm right were a dark color, not as dark as the black in the cross slightly lighter, which I took for red. The top left and bottom right side of the fin and rudder red and the bottom left and top right side of the fin and rudder were white. The left wheel cover was red and the right wheel cover was white. The front nose ring and spinner were white.
On the left fin were two rectangular patches in the red area close to the white between the leading edge and the cross.
On the fuselage cross in the red areas the cross was bordered in white 50 mm wide. In the white areas the cross was not bordered.
The radiator was centrally mounted.
The camouflage on the wings and tailplane were in three colors, dark olive green (dg), pale green(pg) and venetian red(vr). The undersides were sky blue. Center-line |, wing ( or )
the upper wing pattern was:
left ( pg \ dg | \ vr ) right
Lower wing:
left ( pg \ dg | | vr \ dg/pg) right.
tailplane
(pg \ vr | vr \dg)
The machine has an Axial propeller.
I hope this is of assistance. My catalog number is Js11-14. The drawing is $4.00 plus $1.50 for postage.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

[Volker_Nemsch]

Hello Dario!

According to The Jasta War Chronology Leutnant Hans-Georg Lübbert of Jasta 11 was killed in combat at 14.15 between Bailleul and Thelus. Probably he was shot down by Captain R. Gregory, No. 40 Sqn, RFC. Lübbert was the only loss of the Jagdstaffeln on this day. If he flew an Albatros D.III before this day it seems logical to me that he was shot down while flying an aircraft of this type but that is just a guess.

I hope this helps a bit ...

[Kirby]

Originally Posted by StephenLawson

Greetings Dario Silva;
Here's my interpretation...
http://www.us-aircraft.com/images/yellowalbatross.jpg
http://www.darkmatterinc.tv/rmipms/i...ii_11_1917.jpg

Stephen

That is a magnificent job. I don't think myself even worthy of the title "Modeler" after seeing some of the work of you gentlemen who are true members of The Guild.

Well done!

Kirby

[StephenLawson]

Thanks Kirby; Very kind of you to mention it. She is an eye catcher. All in all a relatively easy scheme. I usually get a few queries when I put it down for a contest but the write up that goes with it answers most of the questions. Again thanks to Greg VanWyngarden for his expertise and advice.

[Dario_Silva]

Friends Dan-San Abbott, Volker Nemsch, Kirby and Stephen

Dan-San, Extraordinary their contribution. Very detailed. You detailed very well this machine with these attractive colors.

I am interested in the catalog that you mention. It is very interesting the study carried out by you on this machine.

I will agree with you through the mail.

Volker, Grateful of their info, its possible opponent's detail is very valuable. The hour and the place are data that I didn't know.

Some idea of the airplane flown by the Captain R. Gregory?



Der Rotte Kampfflieger:

"..at last my orderly arrived and fetched me with my car. I learned from him that comrade Lubbert had once more justified his nickname. He was generally called "the bullet-catcher" for his machine suffered badly in every fight. Once it was hit sixty-four times. Yet he had not been wounded. This time he had received a glancing shot on the chest and he was by this time in hospital. I flew his machine to port. Unfortunately this excellent officer, who promised to become another Boelcke, died a few weeks later-a hero's death for the Fatherland."

Richthofen



Maybe you its brother's additional fact could find in The Jasta War Chronology?

Greg VanWyngarden wrote (Osprey AEU16) that its brother was gravely wounded in combat February 17, 1918, by an SE.5.

Some idea that airplane type flew Jasta 11 for those days?

The possible opponent pilot?

Any new fact is welcome and grateful.

Thanks to all for their help.

Dario