von R's D.VII

I have seen references to Richthofen being issued a Fokker D.VII shortly before his death. Has anyone got confrimation of that and better yet, markings information?

Thanks,

Chris

[StephenLawson]

MvR flew the experimental V11 at the First Fighter Competitions Jan.-Feb. 1918 and no others we know of. Anyone who has told you that he was issued or flew a Fok. D.VII is guessing or mistaken.

It is actually a reference in the instructions to the Roden early D.VII as well as a review of that kit. I am guessing the reviewer got that info from the kit. Too bad, taht would be fascinating to build!
I have a picture of a D.VII in overall streaky green camo with the cross patee instead of the straight crosses. I am guessing that is the V.11. Did any operational planes have that style of insignia?

Thank you for the reply,

Chris

[StephenLawson]

The first Fokker D.VII to reach the front had fuselages that were streaked camouflage and 4 color loz wings. The V18 was streaked over all and is usually seen withan enlarged rudder / fin arrangement. The cross patee / iron cross was on the first arrivals. The top two images of each set of four are early Fokker Schwerin built.





For other interesting images.
http://members.shaw.ca/flyingaces/archive1.htm

So the very first D.VII's were issued to squadrons wearing the old style crosses on white fields? They would have been olive cowlings, wheels, undercariage fairing etc with 4 colour wings, streaked fuselages and the old style insignia? Interesting scheme! Are there any pictures of one? What serial number range would they be? There is an alternative 4 colour lozenge pattern that Americal/Gryphon claims is from an early build Fokker D.VII. Appropriate for one of the versions with older insignia? Is the first picture that you posted of a prototype (V.18?) or is that a very early production machine?

Sorry for all the questions, but it is an interesting alternative!

Thanks,

Chris

Where does Göring's all white D VII fit in ??????

[Copperhead]

Originally posted by topgun56@Sep 13 2004, 09:38 AM
[b] Where does Göring's all white D VII fit in ??????

Hey Topgun, I'm no expert but using the Osprey book by Norman Franks & Greg VanWyngarden as the latest ref. It was his Last DVII, and was specially made with the white paint. There are 3 other color (colour) plates of his DVII's that were used previously. I've got a Revell DVII that I WAS going to do in the ALL WHITE scheme, but his other 3 mounts are more interesting. HTH JW

[redalb2253]

copperhead I believe the red and yellow 294? was lothar's DVII and probably been red back to where the yellow starts but that's my opinion.

My understanding is that Goering's D.VII F 5125/18 was specially built for him and was painted that way from new. It was his last D.VII and was a late production Fokker built machine with a BMW engine. Nice, but not apllicable to very early schemes!

Chris

[StephenLawson]

Here is a link to an older site that discussed the Fokker D.VII Heres the link without the pop-ups. http://www.aerofile.info/

Chris Crowx try the search engine at the bottom of the page, many good discussion links on the Fokker D.VII especially the early types are there.