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13 October 2009, 03:48 PM
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pilots' pay
This is "small" Ginger (to distinguish from GINGER, whom I didn't know when I chose the user name
 ). While a couple of reference works tell me how much pilots in the RFC were paid, I can't find anything that tells me how they received their pay--did they sign for cash weekly or fortnightly or something? Which officer would have been in charge of this, the Adjutant? If someone could point me in the direction of books/documents that detail this kind of thing, I'd be really grateful. (I'm also wondering who did their laundry and where; I'm imagining lines of undies waving in the breeze behind the Nissen huts...) cheero |
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13 October 2009, 04:40 PM
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The Army had an official bank into which wages were paid, which was Cox's. Doesn't get mentioned much, but you can find reference to it in the Biggles novel, The Camels are Coming, on the first page of Chapter 11...
Mahoney, on his way to the sheds to take his Flight off for an Ordinary Patrol, paused in his stride as his eye fell on Biggles leaning in an attitude of utter boredom against the door-post of the Officer's Mess. 'Why so pensive, young aviator?' he smiled. 'Has Mr Cox grabbed your pay to square up the overdraft?' he added, as he caught sight of an open letter in the other's hand. Biggles novels are of course fictional, but they are often based on real events, and little details such as that are always correct, which is why they are worth reading. For example, the crash Biggles has at the end of that book, is almost a blow by blow retelling of the real crash WE Johns had when he was shot down and taken POW. Al
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13 October 2009, 05:08 PM
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Here's an official reference to Cox's, this one being from Hansard (the official documentation of statements made in the House of Commons UK parliament):
BANK CLERKS. (Hansard, 9 November 1916) Al
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13 October 2009, 05:18 PM
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Of course! What an idiot I am. (here confesses to having an almost complete Biggles collection...)
I know the page perfectly, but I didn't realise what the reference to "Mr Cox" meant. Thank you very much! And thanks for the Hansard ref. Incidentally, on pp233-34 of "Winged Warfare", Bishop talks about a fellow-pilot who helps him drive off seven EA even though the pilot's guns were jammed, which is exactly what Algy does for Biggles later in the chapter mentioned below. cheero Quote:
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13 October 2009, 05:44 PM
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13 October 2009, 05:51 PM
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Thank you. Yes, sad lack of imagination with user names.
>Guess that explains the forum name then. Welcome by the way. |
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13 October 2009, 06:41 PM
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It's not "Rocket Science" telling you two apart, as you will soon find out!
 It's like twins, one is British and one an AUSSIE.   Unless you have delusions of flying an S.E.5a with a rather large White "G" on the upper wing!   Cheers, FOKKERJ 
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13 October 2009, 06:59 PM
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Hmm, okay. Should I be watching my six on this?
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13 October 2009, 07:36 PM
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Sopwith Pup is an excellent machine. :)
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By the way I just took a look-see and there are no Little or Big Gingers.  His handle is Ginger., with a period attatched to the end. Would that be a Sopwith Pup with a Red band wrapped around the fuselage with a Kangaroo on it? You always have to watch your six around here as we are such a busy bunch! Cheers, FOKKERJ
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14 October 2009, 01:01 PM
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Who is Biggles, Gentlemen? I'm always looking for recommendations of books to put on my list....in case I can afford to buy them, some day.
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