Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #17

Varese2002 · 20 November 2006, 10:19 PM

Of this plane is no known picture, but there is a detailed drawing.

Score Board at the beginning of Round 17 is:
5 Varese2002
2 Rbailey
1 Gilles
1 Cruze
1 Colin A Owers
1 bshatzer
1 Eric Goedkoop
1 JohnMacG
1 ercoupepilot
1 Breguet
1 joegertler

Varese

Breguet · 21 November 2006, 02:42 AM

Call me crazy but I think it's German

Breguet · 21 November 2006, 02:49 AM

I also think it's from the stable of good old Mr Junkers. Though I don't know a number. You certainly have a good selection of unusual types!

Varese2002 · 21 November 2006, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Breguet

I also think it's from the stable of good old Mr Junkers. Though I don't know a number. You certainly have a good selection of unusual types!

Breguet. This is not good enough to get a point

. Need the correct designation. The rules of the Breguet game are very strict on this point.

Varese

Rbailey · 21 November 2006, 06:36 AM

Junkers J6.

YavorD · 21 November 2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rbailey

Junkers J6.

It conforms to the description of J6. My source do not provide photo or drawing. Is it flown? Junkers Hochdecker J6 reported as incomplete at Dessau (Ico) by the end of the War.
Regards,
Yavor

Rbailey · 21 November 2006, 11:27 AM

I have also seen it said that the J6 prototype was not completed, so if that is true it obviously never flew. That may explain a lack of photographs. Also, there is a suggestion that the designation was J12, although it is clearly not the postwar J12, and that would have been out of order for the time. It conforms to the drawing on the Junkers web page

Varese2002 · 21 November 2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rbailey

Junkers J6.

Absolutely right Rbailey, you're the best

The Junkers Parasol J6 with Siemens Sh III rotary engine of 160 hp was an extremely small machine. It was completely built but remained in the workshop. Famous fighter aces were delighted to see the machine and wanted to fly it. In august 1918 Lt. Gotthard Sachsenberg asked Junkers when the machine would be ready to fly.
The very high landing was necessary by the use of a relatively great diameter of 2,8 meter. The petrol (and oil ?) was carried in a detachable tank beneath the fuselage.

[ Data from : Wolfgang Wagner. Von der J1 bis zur F13, ISBN 3-88064-015-7 ]

A masterly plane, very unknown but it really existed. I think it will be a challenge for the model building group of this Forum.

Score Board at the end of Round 17 is:

5 Varese2002
3 Rbailey
1 Gilles
1 Cruze
1 Colin A Owers
1 bshatzer
1 Eric Goedkoop
1 JohnMacG
1 ercoupepilot
1 Breguet
1 joegertler

Rbailey is on his way up

Varese

YavorD · 21 November 2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rbailey

Also, there is a suggestion that the designation was J12, although it is clearly not the postwar J12, and that would have been out of order for the time.

According to this source (good text and badly retouched pictures)

Guenter Schmitt, unter Mitarbeit von Angelika Hofmann und Thomas Hofmann (Dessau)
Hugo Junkers und seine Flugzeuge
transpress VEB Verlag fuer Verkehrswesen, 1986
ISBN 3-344-00065-9

J 5 is unfinished low wing monoplane fighter project (Project 2, not built), and J 6 is incomplete Hochdecker (parasol) monoplane with Siemens-Halske Sh III engine and dropable fuel tank (Project 3, incomplete airframe).
Span 8 m
Length 5.6 m
Wing area 12 sq.m

Regards,
Yavor

Breguet · 21 November 2006, 01:12 PM

Yeah. yeah guys - after I set the kill up for you!