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Old 25 August 2014, 08:15 AM   #41
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There are more sarcophagi and stained glass .... none of which gives me the impression that the Lafayette was over-rated.

I'll say again - I understand the intent of the original question, it's the volcabulary I have an issue with. It has the ring of dismissiveness and that should not be part of the conversation.
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Old 25 August 2014, 10:47 AM   #42
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Onealm, I agree with you 100%
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Old 25 August 2014, 11:07 AM   #43
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Not eloquent at all, dear Glenn, only devoid of better-established English vocabs. Sorry for that, but now I'm back for a second try, and this time, I am armed with my faithful Langenscheid dictionary !
It advices me to use this formulation:

A hype is to inflict/impose an information, not by giving evidence of the quality of the item but by repeating similar slogans again and again. Just like the golden rule of advertisement: "If you want to be succesful, pretend to be succesful already". That works very well in many cases. But there's a proportion of people who react allergic on that and tend to rather dislike the item until being given proof of quality.

Me for example, I will rather dislike Rihanna until I hear any good song of her, no matter how often her picture is imposed on my eyes. And I will consider the Lafayette escadrille overhyped because I know of their low tally. This will not change at all when more and more hypes like books, memorials and awards are numerated to me.

Let me quote a common anecdote from the country I happened to be born in, the GDR (quite difficult to translate, Langenscheid do your best!):
"A fellow received three awards: the first because he had none, the second because he had one only, the third because the had two already".

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Old 25 August 2014, 11:21 AM   #44
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I've read these rather long texts twice. However, they do not make it easier for me to put myself in the position of someone who doesn't feel unwell when facing a hype.
I regret that, but maybe you cannot empathize my discomfort either when I think of Rihanna, Barack Obama, ice bucket challenges and the Lafayette escadrille. It is a kind of defence mechanism against anyone obtruding me to appreciate anything.
Persons who dislike hypes generally have the need for building their cheers on solid facts, because they feel more autonomous then.
Hi Knusel,

I suggest that if you are uncomfortable with this stated hype to do what I do. I research what is of interest to me. I find other Flieger more interesting to me than Richthofen. I find other Jasta more interesting than Jasta 11. I find other American Flyers more interesting than Eddie Rickenbacker (I'm not 100% sure that his score wasn't "hyped" up!). Lufberry, Luke, and several others come to mind! I enjoy reading Auto-Biographies, usually by less popular Flyers. I find they tend to me more honest with less embellishments.

Best Wishes, Jay

P.S. Thanks for an interesting topic.
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Old 25 August 2014, 11:37 AM   #45
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Dear Jay,

you're right. Maybe someone should start a thread about underestimated pilots. This would be equally intresting, and it sure wouldn't hurt the feelings of devoted fans of distinct pilots.

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