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Old 6 November 2002, 06:11 PM   #1
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Some time back there was dispute re authenticity of German Iron Cross on a White disc.
Current issue -to me in Oz- of Air Enthusiast, Nov-Dec 2002, No. 102, has item on a WW1 airman, with pic of this aeroplane, page 21.
Maybe overpainted 'capture' roundel as suggested by a forumite, but there is the photo...... decice for yourself.
 
Old 8 November 2002, 01:43 AM   #2
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Neville

Several months ago Mark Lax provided me with copies of all 1AFC's CITARs.

I was looking through them last night and found several references in the "Remarks on Hostile Machines" to "black crosses inside white circles"

For example in a combat report dated 11.6.1918, Capt. Ross Smith states:

1 Rumpler C.IV two-seater. Camouflaged. White circles on top wings and fuselage with black crosses inside circles. Looked like new machine. Speed and climb not quite as good as Mark III Bristol Fighter. 1 or 2 guns firing back.

This machine was eventually driven down and machine gunned on the ground.

Are we talking about the same subject?
 
Old 8 November 2002, 04:47 PM   #3
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Yes and no. There was a thread on German markings some time back, where the square background with rounded corners was advanced, and I *cited a newspaper illustration and the 1AFC citar Oxenham submitted.
German forumite raised uncertainty, suggesting that captured example in Lord Mayor's show had Brit markings applied, they being overpainted *in turn, and X put back for display purposes, resulting in bogus markings. Pic in magazine is the same plane. We still do not know for certain that Germans had DISCS with Iron Crosses on them. Photo suggests it though.
 
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