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16 May 2000, 05:12 AM
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Why was MvR titled 'Baron' and not his father the major? And after Mvr's death was Lothar a 'baron'? Thanks in advance Dan |
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16 May 2000, 01:43 PM
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haven't read this one up in ages but I always thought it was 'Freiherr' which isn't the same. they probably called him the red baron because to call him the red 'freeman' just didn't sound right, as by god, we were going to free those people oppressed beneath they're iron-fisted tutelage... kinda bad for the propaganda machine and all. for anybody else, feel free to debunk my theory, as I haven't really looked at German in... 4 or 5 years, and that was just one year of it! but I think that would explain why nobody else got the baron title... because none of them were 'barons'.
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16 May 2000, 01:47 PM
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Hi!
Of course, MvR's father and Lothar were Barone too. The word Baron comes from the french. In Germany it's an unusual synonym for the lower nobility. The correct title is Freiherr. Kind regards, Immo
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16 May 2000, 03:14 PM
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There is no English language equivalent to the term "freiherr".The closest thing anyone could come up with was "baron",so that is what they used.
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16 May 2000, 03:33 PM
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Freiherr is the German title for the rank of nobility equal to the British rank of baron. It is a hereditary title.
If one must seek a literal translation, it would be "free lord" or, possibly, "free master". The word "herr" can be translated several ways into modern English. HORRIDO! |
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16 May 2000, 08:27 PM
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BOth Freiherr and Baron exist in german.
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17 May 2000, 02:24 AM
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So is "Freiherr" an individually held title like an English Baron or is it an indicator of social rank shared by the lower upper class?
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17 May 2000, 06:06 AM
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The Richthofen-Family got the title "Freiherr" from Frederik the Great after the Slesian Wars.
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