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Old 25 December 2014, 01:19 PM   #1
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Breguet's Crashfile ID Challenge #911

This one is for John:

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Scoreboard at the end of Breguet's Crashfile ID Challenge # 910 : Gourdou-Leseurre GL-C1 (staé designation)

114.45 FLAMINGO ☼☼☼☼
97.80 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ☼☼☼
76.95 Lodzermensch ☼☼☼
75.30 Froggy ☼☼☼
61.20 YavorD ☼☼
60.00 richard B ☼☼
47.30 John McKenzie ☼
42.60 Rbailey ☼
35.80 Breguet ☼
28.00 Albrecht ☼
19.25 AROTH
18.45 AQUILIUS
16.30 Varese2002
15.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
12.80 Patrick
12.50 Brad
11.30 Rod_Filan
10.00 ONEALM
08.10 Gregvan
07.50 matte_kudasai
07.40 Expositor
07.00 Pfalz-Scout
06.00 Dan_San_Abbott
06.00 Machinist
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Gilles
05.25 Rexee
05.20 Albatros1234
05.20 Crankcase
05.20 Laserlloyd
05.20 SCMc
05.10 Catfish
05.00 Albatros_Ace
05.00 Kilian
05.00 RAF56_Ball ............. Have to wait three hours

04.50 Rufe ...................... May start immediately
04.00 Al Forbes
04.00 Berman
04.00 Edmondy
04.00 Eric
04.00 Missouri Mule
04.00 Sobrien
04.00 Timothy Seilbeck
03.80 gregorydquist
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.20 vossiewulf
03.00 Crimso
02.70 Tbstreet
02.50 Willi Von Klugerman
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Johnnick
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.50 Tally Ho
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.10 Jellytwig
01.00 AEFSPADs
01.00 ArisKosionidis
01.00 airwarrior
01.00 Ampovanda
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cigogne
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Mark
01.00 misa2
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Stargazer
01.00 Tork1945
01.00 Troy Raines
01.00 ulpilot
00.50 Aeronaut

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All aircraft are of the 1914-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period).
The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner! Offenders will be dealt with severely!
To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in it's identification.
And whoever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host!
If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
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Old 27 December 2014, 10:05 AM   #2
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1) What I can see is an air-cooled V8. More like 70/80 hp Renault rather than R.A.F.1a.
2) Also, Royal Navy personnel around the wreck.
3) There is a structure which reminds me horn-balanced rudder or elevator.
Now the problem is how to find an airplane which fits
I am going to start with Airco D.H.6 prototype.
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Old 27 December 2014, 11:11 AM   #3
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I think that it was probably a pusher type aircraft
The De Havilland DH1 was powered by a Renault 70 hp
The rudder could fit ?

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Old 27 December 2014, 12:56 PM   #4
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Good engine ID, but neither a DH 1 or 6.
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Old 28 December 2014, 12:27 PM   #5
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I still believe it was a tractor, not pusher. Going down through the list of Renault powered machines my second attempt is "Little Ack", Armstrong Whitworth FK.3.
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Old 28 December 2014, 12:45 PM   #6
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Still a miss I'm afraid. Back to those books !!
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Old 29 December 2014, 06:56 PM   #7
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I am going to say that this is an early type Be2. I haven't much to support my theory but the early Be2 (even an early Be2c) had those large discs on the axle for the bungees and skids. It also looks like there could be a steel tube engine bearer which the Be2 had.
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Old 30 December 2014, 04:20 AM   #8
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Chalk another one up to Albrecht !

Flight Commander Charles Herbert Collet DSO RMA; died in this crash - the burnt out remains of BE2c 922 - on August 19th 1915 in the Dardenelles. Collet received his DSO for the September 22nd 1914 attack on the Dusseldorf airship sheds.

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Scoreboard at the end of Breguet's Crashfile ID Challenge # 911 : BE2c

114.45 FLAMINGO ☼☼☼☼
97.80 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ☼☼☼
76.95 Lodzermensch ☼☼☼
75.30 Froggy ☼☼☼
61.20 YavorD ☼☼
60.00 richard B ☼☼
47.30 John McKenzie ☼
42.60 Rbailey ☼
35.80 Breguet ☼
29.00 Albrecht ☼
19.25 AROTH
18.45 AQUILIUS
16.30 Varese2002
15.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
12.80 Patrick
12.50 Brad
11.30 Rod_Filan
10.00 ONEALM
08.10 Gregvan
07.50 matte_kudasai
07.40 Expositor
07.00 Pfalz-Scout
06.00 Dan_San_Abbott
06.00 Machinist
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Gilles
05.25 Rexee
05.20 Albatros1234
05.20 Crankcase
05.20 Laserlloyd
05.20 SCMc
05.10 Catfish
05.00 Albatros_Ace
05.00 Kilian
05.00 RAF56_Ball ............. Have to wait three hours

04.50 Rufe ...................... May start immediately
04.00 Al Forbes
04.00 Berman
04.00 Edmondy
04.00 Eric
04.00 Missouri Mule
04.00 Sobrien
04.00 Timothy Seilbeck
03.80 gregorydquist
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.20 vossiewulf
03.00 Crimso
02.70 Tbstreet
02.50 Willi Von Klugerman
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Johnnick
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.50 Tally Ho
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.10 Jellytwig
01.00 AEFSPADs
01.00 ArisKosionidis
01.00 airwarrior
01.00 Ampovanda
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cigogne
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Mark
01.00 misa2
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Stargazer
01.00 Tork1945
01.00 Troy Raines
01.00 ulpilot
00.50 Aeronaut
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Here it is said that Charles Cottet was flying in a sopwith admiralty 807 when he crashed on 19th august 1915
https://books.google.fr/books?id=ITV...Collet&f=false
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Just to bump this up and remind Albrecht that he's due on Patrol!
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