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Old 28 September 2014, 04:52 AM   #1
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Breguets Aircraft ID Challenge #1342

Sorry for the delay, [continuing software issues]

Good luck and good hunting!

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The scoreboard after challenge #1341 - Halberstadt CSL I (Germany, 1918)

239.10 Dave_Kent
200.50 Rbailey
153.40 Varese2002
79.60 richard B
55.30 Aquilius
44.60 Tork1945
39.45 Lodzermensch
33.30 Cruze
30.58 Rod Filan
29.00 YavorD
24.95 Froggy
19.50 Albrecht
16.90 Flamingo
16.20 Breguet
11.50 matte_kudasai
11.50 Missouri Mule
10.45 GregE
10.40 Brad
10.30 Patrick
09.80 Alex1965
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.20 Rufe
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 Berman
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.50 Doc
07.25 Ermeio
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.40 John McKenzie
06.30 HoHun
06.10 Jim
06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
06.00 Old Man
06.00 Sobrien
05.80 RobW
05.70 vossiewulf
05.70 AROTH
05.70 dpolglaze
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.20 Maze
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 AL FORBES
05.00 Catfish
05.00 Kristjanr
05.00 machinist
05.00 SCMc
05.00 Tom L ............Above this line, have to wait 12 hours

04.40 Ross Moorhouse ........... Below this line, may start immediately
04.40 RC Gardner
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
04.00 Luf-Rick
03.40 RAF56_Ball
03.00 Linhawk
03.00 Lupodimontenero
03.00 Pfalz-Scout
03.00 Totalspoon
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 Cigogne
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 albatros1234
02.00 austin08
02.00 Expositor
02.00 Misa2
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 AWP101
01.50 MickMcGrath
01.00 redbaron1917
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Mike Westrop
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Doug las7
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Johnnick
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher



Previous: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

The Rules:
1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !) and the poster re-post within the same thread, the 12hours handicap beginning from that point.
6. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
7. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
8. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
9. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
10. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
11. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules is BREGUET.

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Old 28 September 2014, 01:38 PM   #2
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This is how I imagine the Morane Monocoque may would have looked in the summer of 1914 and which was developed into the Morane-Saulnier, Type N.

I have absolutely no evidence, but reports of the motor overheating could have led to slots being cut in that whacking great spinner.

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Old 28 September 2014, 03:49 PM   #3
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Sorry Mick, not a Morane
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Old 28 September 2014, 04:52 PM   #4
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Large spinner with distinctive cut-outs - Caproni Ca. 20. But where is the cabane structure?
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Old 29 September 2014, 05:43 AM   #5
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In the original photo the cabane structure is not visible, but there is a dark blurb sitting in mid air. I took this to be the pilots long-handles hung out to dry, so I edited them out, as well as the pilot, who wants to see an Italian pilot sans long-handles? Well, after going back and blowing up said photo it turns out said long-handles were actually a Lewis, my bad. I think that due to the lighting the cabane faded out over time.

Score after BAIC #1342 Caproni Ca 20 :


239.10 Dave_Kent
201.50 Rbailey
153.40 Varese2002
79.60 richard B
55.30 Aquilius
44.60 Tork1945
39.45 Lodzermensch
33.30 Cruze
30.58 Rod Filan
29.00 YavorD
24.95 Froggy
19.50 Albrecht
16.90 Flamingo
16.20 Breguet
11.50 matte_kudasai
11.50 Missouri Mule
10.45 GregE
10.40 Brad
10.30 Patrick
09.80 Alex1965
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.20 Rufe
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 Berman
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.50 Doc
07.25 Ermeio
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.40 John McKenzie
06.30 HoHun
06.10 Jim
06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
06.00 Old Man
06.00 Sobrien
05.80 RobW
05.70 vossiewulf
05.70 AROTH
05.70 dpolglaze
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.20 Maze
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 AL FORBES
05.00 Catfish
05.00 Kristjanr
05.00 machinist
05.00 SCMc
05.00 Tom L ............Above this line, have to wait 12 hours

04.40 Ross Moorhouse ........... Below this line, may start immediately
04.40 RC Gardner
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
04.00 Luf-Rick
03.40 RAF56_Ball
03.00 Linhawk
03.00 Lupodimontenero
03.00 Pfalz-Scout
03.00 Totalspoon
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 Cigogne
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 albatros1234
02.00 austin08
02.00 Expositor
02.00 Misa2
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 AWP101
01.50 MickMcGrath
01.00 redbaron1917
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Mike Westrop
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Doug las7
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Johnnick
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher





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